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| Quote ="Lebron James"Huddersfield dont bring any fans either, or wakefield so do you want them kicked out too?
Regards
King james'"
ant1 is posting regarding the title of this thread who's two teams feature in the MPG. He chose Leigh, and gave an explanation as to why. Nowt to do with any other clubs attendances.
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| It won't let me vote for some reason. Catalans for me, they get bigger crowds, have an academy, expand our reach beyond the M62 corridor, and benefit the international game. Plus they have shown on field potential at times, having made the CC Final once and play offs numerous times. I've nothing against Leigh, but they bring a lot less to SL.
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| So, we have a club which add some je ne sais qoui to the comp and is a strong vibrant club which people enjoy travelling to or, a club in the shadow of Wigan, in a borough of Wigan, that doesn't have it's own academy.
It's really hard to make your mind up.
Home fixture, partisan crowd, Leigh will stay up.
(unless there is a conspiracy between Sky and the RFL to keep Les Cats in SL )
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| Quote ="Grimmy"It won't let me vote for some reason. Catalans for me, they get bigger crowds, have an academy, expand our reach beyond the M62 corridor, and benefit the international game. Plus they have shown on field potential at times, having made the CC Final once and play offs numerous times. I've nothing against Leigh, but they bring a lot less to SL.'"
Hang on, We've had 1 season crack of the whip in SL, We've put everything we were able to do so in place, and now you want us condemned? I've nothing against Leigh my @R$£. Why don't you offer Catalans a place in SL instead of your team and keep the M62 corridor expanded?
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| Quote ="Parkside Freddie"Do go on...'"
Just my own personal opinion pal. In my eyes they are the probably either 4th or 5th in the World (not hard in terms of RL like!) but I feel they bring more to the International game than some countries. They are a true French side. Unlike say Scotland who are made up of English players, or Samoa who are made up of people who have played international for Australia. The majority of the nations in the 2013 WC (excluding England, Australia, New Zealand and France) were made up of people not from their nation.
For me France and PNG are the ones outside the top 3 who are at least playing their 'home' players in more than just qualifying. Yes France do get battered by the likes on ENG, NZ and AUS. But for me they are getting stronger and that is down the Catalan being a professional SL side. Hopefully Toulouse will join them and improve the French player pool even more so!
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| Leigh because on the evidence not provided Catalans hasn't done much for the French national team, and it would prove that no one outside the game would bat an eyelid if they stayed or went down:
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| I certainly don't have a problem with Leigh.
I don't really feel anything towards them. Just a small club from over the hill. Don't wish them any ill will, but if they where relegated, Super league wouldnt suffer for it.
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| Has to be Catalan for the good of the game.
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| Quote ="Cokey"Hang on, We've had 1 season crack of the whip in SL, We've put everything we were able to do so in place, and now you want us condemned? I've nothing against Leigh my @R$£. Why don't you offer Catalans a place in SL instead of your team and keep the M62 corridor expanded?
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Do you honestly disagree that Catalans offer more than Leigh to SL? If it was Leigh or Salford, I'd say Leigh, but it isn't.
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| Quote ="supersuperfc"I certainly don't have a problem with Leigh.
I don't really feel anything towards them. Just a small club from over the hill. Don't wish them any ill will, but if they where relegated, Super league wouldnt suffer for it.'"
I respect your opinion,however, If Leigh do go down, then what you're really saying is,shut shop and leave us 12 clubs alone for the good of the game,and protect Catalans.
BTW - The structure will change for the 2019 season,so it might not be a bad idea for them to
go down, and rebuild, regroup, and restructure themselves.
Most folk on this thread are showing a selfish view because they might not have their annual Jolly with a game thrown in.
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| Quote ="Grimmy"Do you honestly disagree that Catalans offer more than Leigh to SL? If it was Leigh or Salford, I'd say Leigh, but it isn't.'"
You might as well say that Catalans should be exempt from relegation
Look, Leigh haven't been given the opportunity to build, and be a bigger club,one season isn't enough. I hope Leigh stay in SL, not just because it's my team,but i believe we will grow as a club and compete better. WE put 50 on you lot twice last year,so we certainly have the potential to get bigger.
All this Catalan crap is down to folk not getting their annual rugby jolly in France/Spain.
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| Not bothered who stays up really, the best team on the day and not decided by any dodgy call or incident.
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| Quote ="Cokey"You might as well say that Catalans should be exempt from relegation'"
Well yes, to be honest I would say that, subject to them keeping reasonable crowds (say 7k+), an academy, and maybe a minimum number of France-eligible players in the 17.
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| May the best team win.
If Catalans do stay up then i duly expect tinned mushy peas and Fredbet to step aside as sponsors and make way for giants like Coca Cola and Mercedes-Benz.
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| Actually i hope Leigh win. It would highly amusing to see the self-loathing northerners on here have a meltdown.
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| Quote ="Cokey"I respect your opinion,however, If Leigh do go down, then what you're really saying is,shut shop and leave us 12 clubs alone for the good of the game,and protect Catalans.
BTW - The structure will change for the 2019 season,so it might not be a bad idea for them to
go down, and rebuild, regroup, and restructure themselves.
Most folk on this thread are showing a selfish view because they might not have their annual Jolly with a game thrown in.'"
Your last comment is a beauty:
"Most folk on this thread are showing a selfish view because they might not have their annual Jolly with a game thrown in."
Whereas your own view which is clearly biased in favour of your own club, is balanced and well thought out and could only be for the good of the game as a whole
Sorry, but, Catalan offer more to the game than Leigh, unless you want to shrink the game into the M62 corridor and probably revert to RL in the UK, sorry, Yorkshire and Lancashire, becoming a semi professional sport.
A French club (Paris) were brought in help sell the TV rights to Sky.
Based on this logic, Sky would be within their rights to cut funding for the "inferior" product that we would have (should Catalan go down).
As I said previously, all of the advantage is with Leigh.
Home advantage, favourites with the bookies and you only have to get past a team coached by McNamara.
Sounds like a foregone conclusion.
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| Quote ="Cokey"I respect your opinion,however, If Leigh do go down, then what you're really saying is,shut shop and leave us 12 clubs alone for the good of the game,and protect Catalans.
BTW - The structure will change for the 2019 season,so it might not be a bad idea for them to
go down, and rebuild, regroup, and restructure themselves.
Most folk on this thread are showing a selfish view because they might not have their annual Jolly with a game thrown in.'"
You've mentioned a few times now about fans wanting Catalans to win so they still get there weekend away.
I ask again. What is the problem with that?
Not wanting to it to appear like im picking on your club, but I have to say i'm quite surprised by how low your attendances have been this season. Are all four stands open now?
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Your last comment is a beauty:
"Most folk on this thread are showing a selfish view because they might not have their annual Jolly with a game thrown in."
Whereas your own view which is clearly biased in favour of your own club, is balanced and well thought out and could only be for the good of the game as a whole
Sorry, but, Catalan offer more to the game than Leigh, unless you want to shrink the game into the M62 corridor and probably revert to RL in the UK, sorry, Yorkshire and Lancashire, becoming a semi professional sport.
A French club (Paris) were brought in help sell the TV rights to Sky.
Based on this logic, =#FF0000Sky would be within their rights to cut funding for the "inferior" product that we would have (should Catalan go down).
As I said previously, all of the advantage is with Leigh.
Home advantage, favourites with the bookies and you only have to get past a team coached by McNamara.
Sounds like a foregone conclusion.'"
=#FF0000In that case everyone should be notified that Catalan can't be allowed to be relegated in case we lose our funding from SLY...WHAT A PILE OF CACK!!!
Well iv'e already said that the structure will change for the 2019 season with more SL teams likely to be in it,so would one season make a difference if they went down to re establish themselves? Our owner has made it perfectly clear with the staff/players and fans if we go down,what our intentions,aspirations,goals, and player's welfare is to reassure that we can bounce back. Catalans will just have to do the same. One thing for sure is, i will support and buy a season ticket whichever division we're in.
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| Quote ="Cokey"You might as well say that Catalans should be exempt from relegation
Look, Leigh haven't been given the opportunity to build, and be a bigger club,one season isn't enough. I hope Leigh stay in SL, not just because it's my team,but i believe we will grow as a club and compete better. WE put 50 on you lot twice last year,so we certainly have the potential to get bigger.
All this Catalan crap is down to folk not getting their annual rugby jolly in France/Spain.'"
I thought Leigh fans claimed they had been building for years in the Championship. But now you're claiming that you've only had one season to build. You'd have a better chance at building if you ran an academy and didn't try and sign every player under the sun.
You Leigh fans seem to have some complex with foreign teams. You seem to really dislike Catalans and Toronto, wouldn't surprise me if you all had something on Toulouse too.
I'm still waiting for those players that your fans claimed would be internationals this season to step up, you know like Higson and Acton.
Catalans do offer more to Super League than yourselves, I'd say the majority of people have said that, but you choose to ignore it because "it's a jolly in the sun."
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| Quote ="SecondRowSaint"=#FF0000I thought Leigh fans claimed they had been building for years in the Championship. But now you're claiming that you've only had one season to build. You'd have a better chance at building if you ran an academy and didn't try and sign every player under the sun.
You Leigh fans seem to have some complex with foreign teams. You seem to really dislike Catalans and Toronto, wouldn't surprise me if you all had something on Toulouse too.
I'm still waiting for those players that your fans claimed would be internationals this season to step up, you know like Higson and Acton.
Catalans do offer more to Super League than yourselves, I'd say the majority of people have said that, but you choose to ignore it because "it's a jolly in the sun."'"
You haven't had to build from the championship,so how would you know if it's easy or difficult to attain SL from that position? And the majority on here support a club who's had the luxury of franchise to build,have an academy,and be a better club, Leigh have had one season in SL,it's not enough.
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| Quote ="SecondRowSaint"I thought Leigh fans claimed they had been building for years in the Championship. But now you're claiming that you've only had one season to build. You'd have a better chance at building if you ran an academy and didn't try and sign every player under the sun.
You Leigh fans seem to have some complex with foreign teams. You seem to really dislike Catalans and Toronto, wouldn't surprise me if you all had something on Toulouse too.
I'm still waiting for those players that your fans claimed would be internationals this season to step up, you know like Higson and Acton.
[uCatalans do offer more to Super League than yourselves,[/u I'd say the majority of people have said that, but you choose to ignore it because "it's a jolly in the sun."'"
Not on the pitch they don't.
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| Quote ="Cokey"but i believe we will grow as a club and compete better. WE put 50 on you lot twice last year,so we certainly have the potential to get bigger.
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Genuine question, but in what ways do you see Leigh growing over the next 1/3/5 years?
Do you see crowds growing, and by how much? Do you not think that Leigh's market is limited and saturated? How you do see Leigh marketing itself to new audiences?
In what way do you see Leigh growing commercial revenue, given that Leigh and the surrounding area [url=http://www.uklocalarea.com/index.php?lsoa=E01006322&q=Leigh+Central&wc=00BWFPscores poorly[/url on many economic indexes?
How do you see Leigh contributing more to the talent pool of the sport over that period, given the lack of an establish academy structure?
This isn't a dig, I'm genuinely interested into your reasons behind your belief that the club will grow and offer more to the sport.
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| Quote ="bramleyrhino"Genuine question, but in what ways do you see Leigh growing over the next 1/3/5 years?
=#FF0000Do you see crowds growing, and by how much? Do you not think that Leigh's market is limited and saturated? How you do see Leigh marketing itself to new audiences?
In what way do you see Leigh growing commercial revenue, given that Leigh and the surrounding area [url=http://www.uklocalarea.com/index.php?lsoa=E01006322&q=Leigh+Central&wc=00BWFPscores poorly[/url on many economic indexes?
=#0000FFHow do you see Leigh contributing more to the talent pool of the sport over that period, given the lack of an establish academy structure?
This isn't a dig, I'm genuinely interested into your reasons behind your belief that the club will grow and offer more to the sport.'"
=#FF0000From avg 1,500 in champ to 5,500 1st season in SL, potential there i reckon.
=#0000FFOur owner said there would be an academy next season if we sustained SL status. That's a start i reckon.
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| This thread is pathetic, did any other supporters of SOOPER DOOPER League clubs care who got relegated last season (Hull KR or Salford). NOT REALLY.
BUT because it's an M62 club versus a 'Australian/NZ/French team' folk are pretending to give a S**T. I'm assuming then, that if their own club had beaten Catalan Foreigners in the MPG, they wouldn't be happy at all.
Last week v Widnes, 3 French players started for Catalans....... pathetic
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| Quote ="Budgiezilla"This thread is pathetic, did any other supporters of SOOPER DOOPER League clubs care who got relegated last season (Hull KR or Salford). NOT REALLY.
BUT because it's an M62 club versus a 'Australian/NZ/French team' folk are pretending to give a S**T. I'm assuming then, that if their own club had beaten Catalan Foreigners in the MPG, they wouldn't be happy at all.
Last week v Widnes, 3 French players started for Catalans.......
pathetic'"
Actually, if there was a thread last season, I believe many would have voted for KR to remain.
Wether any Salford fans would have started abusing posters and playing the victim card, will never be known
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