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| Did you say this before the game, that you weren't bothered about being knocked out?
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"Twice in the last four seasons. But how often overall?
There are different perspectives. I'd rather not play every possible week of the season given our strong position in the league. I think it cost us in 2014.'"
How overall do you want considering the different formats and cup final date? We've only had two seasons of the CCF slap bang in the middle of a Super 8's?
It's because of your strong position and points gap in the league you really could've gone for Wembley because you could have rested players between Wembley and the playoffs.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Did you say this before the game, that you weren't bothered about being knocked out?'"
Doubt it Dave ! Not won it for 31 years.....
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| Quote ="Dave K."Did you say this before the game, that you weren't bothered about being knocked out?'"
Yes.
See my post on Casforum on 12th June.
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"Leeds v Hull at the Keepmoat.
Wigan v Salford at Leigh.'"
Confirmed?
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| Quote ="will_leeds"Since the first Grand Final in 1998, there's been 12 Wembley finals, of which 5 eventual Grand Final Winners have been present. If we include the non-Wembley finals in that (2000-2006) then 9 of 19 Grand Final winners have played in the Cup final the same year.
Breaking it down further and looking at how each Grand Final Winner has done in the Cup:
Cup Winners - 4
Cup Runners Up - 5
Cup Semi - 2
Cup Quarter Final - 1
Cup Round of 16 - 6
Cup Round 4 - 1
So Cas losing in the Quarter Finals isn't looking promising for you really....'"
9 out of 19 isn't great, considering very few teams have won either a GF or the cup.
Most grand final winners have gone out of the cup without even making the quarter final. Wish we had lost to Saints now.
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"Yes.
See my post on Casforum on 12th June.'"
Do you fancy posting a link or do you want me to search all the posts on the forum.
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"9 out of 19 isn't great, considering very few teams have won either a GF or the cup.
Most grand final winners have gone out of the cup without even making the quarter final. Wish we had lost to Saints now.'"
You said "Very few teams who play at Wembley win the grand final." 9 out of 19 isn't very few.
You're definition of 'most' must be different to mine as well. More than half of Grand Final Winners have made it to at least the Cup Semi's.
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"9 out of 19 isn't great, considering very few teams have won either a GF or the cup.
Most grand final winners have gone out of the cup without even making the quarter final. Wish we had lost to Saints now.'"
But you can bet that those GF winners who made early cup exits had plenty of big game experience, Cas don't. With your lead in the league, today might be your last significant intense big match until that playoff semi final, that's a long time between such occasions. Racking up cricket scores at home won't help come playoffs as today showed.
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| Quote ="PrinterThe"But you can bet that those GF winners who made early cup exits had plenty of big game experience, Cas don't. With your lead in the league, today might be your last significant intense big match until that playoff semi final, that's a long time between such occasions. Racking up cricket scores at home won't help come playoffs as today showed.'"
Indeed. Though being unbeaten at home might help if we have a home play-off.
If we make the grand final, I hope we play Salford so we aren't playing a team with the big game experience we are lacking.
Or Leeds, who whilst having this experience don't have it without Sinfield and Peacock.
I'd prefer to avoid Hull.
Ideally Cas v Leeds;
Hull v Salford;
Cas v Salford Grand Final.
Long way to go yet though.
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"www.casforum.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=29216'"
Thanks for the link,
But that's not the same think In the original post you said that you want to win every game whilst the post earlier said glad you lost today.
IMO you had more chance of winning the cup as don't think Cas have the staying power this season, I've no doubt you will win the LLS, but think that's all you will win this season, it will still be a great season.
Also you said you wouldn't be saying it on Sunday and it's one of the first think you have posted.
You should be disappointed about today's result and I think you are.
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| I thought Powell was refreshingly honest after in his interview. He realises its a learning process and today, even though they were pretty much out played for the first hour still held a 2 point lead and made a dumb play to gift Hull field position, things you can't do in these games. I think Cas will be better for this TBH, it will keep the team in check. It does show that there is no substitute for big game experience though and a plan B will be needed at some point during the play off series if Cas are to seriously contend.
On the semis, should be another two cracking games ive enjoyed the two this weekend hopefully similar weather at end of July.
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| Problem for Cas, is the club, coach and players wanted to win, unlike the one "fan" who wasn't bothered and now they only have 2/3 silverware to play for and only one final.
As far as any club who doesn't win trophies or expected to win trophies should be concerned this is a massive loss.
Look at my team Huddersfield... a few good seasons being in the top four and now regarded as a team challenging for the 8.
It can go sour against the odds. Take trophies where you can.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Did you say this before the game, that you weren't bothered about being knocked out?'"
He would probably rather win the cup final they have on Friday 23rd June.
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"He would probably rather win the cup final they have on Friday 23rd June.'"
Indeed. Just like the last seven.
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| Quote ="Budgiezilla"Doubt it Dave ! Not won it for 31 years.....'"
I dream of only waiting 31 years!
Quote ="nottinghamtiger"Leeds v Hull at the Keepmoat.
Wigan v Salford at Leigh.'"
It's going to be a bit snug at Donny, it'll be nice to see a full ground on T.V. but I bet one or two supporters are disappointed.
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"Indeed. Just like the last seven.'"
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| Quote ="Towns88"6.
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I've clearly lost count.
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"He would probably rather win the cup final they have on Friday 23rd June.'"
Pretty sure it's Leeds cup final nowadays. We would rather try and Beat Hull than you guys. It's become boring playing Leeds. 29-18 flattered you at magic weekend.
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| Quote ="cas all the way"Pretty sure it's Leeds cup final nowadays. We would rather try and Beat Hull than you guys. It's become boring playing Leeds. 29-18 flattered you at magic weekend.'"
Leeds look a lot better now though.
We have a much shorter turnaround and the game is at Headingly. It will no doubt be tough.
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| Quote ="cas all the way"Pretty sure it's Leeds cup final nowadays. We would rather try and Beat Hull than you guys. It's become boring playing Leeds. 29-18 flattered you at magic weekend.'"
Nah our cup finals are ACTUAL cup finals with trophies on offer like the one we're in the last 4 of now. You should try it sometime.
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| Quote ="PrinterThe"Nah our cup finals are ACTUAL cup finals with trophies on offer like the one we're in the last 4 of now. You should try it sometime.'"
......having only played lower-league opposition.
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| Quote ="PrinterThe"Nah our cup finals are ACTUAL cup finals with trophies on offer like the one we're in the last 4 of now. You should try it sometime.'"
I'm sure we would be too with the ties you have had.
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| Quote ="nottinghamtiger"......having only played lower-league opposition.
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Can only beat what's put in front of you and we've come through EVERY big team in the last decade to win multiple big trophies. Your lot crumbled at the first big challenge.
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