Because it causes huge instability, is competitively unfair, and makes the game look tesco value brand cheap all that for next to no publicity, and a relatively small attendance.

It should only come into play when both teams are on equal points, Hull KR won more games and had better attack/defence points than Salford.
If Hull KR was 4 points better than Salford then the concept is a total farce because the results of the the qualifying 8's would have been negated..

That is a good call but, "we" do like a gimmick in RL.

Come back and give us your opinion on it when your teams involved aye. Good for you Hull are having a purple patch but it won't always be that way and when you battle all season to gain a creditable ninth spot only narrowly missing 5th or 6th spot only to be plunged into a relegation battle I do hope you enjoy the drama. I'm certain both myself and many thousands of HKR fans will.

Anyways during the close season why don't you quench your blood lust with a bit of badger baiting or whatever cruelty you especially enjoy. Drama is a CCup semi final win or a last gasp try to win the cup against the odds it's not the proposed demise of your club and all the hard work and jobs that go with it

well said sir

fully agree and I'm a Salford fan.

For those who follow such as Leeds, Wigan and Saints, it's easy not to understand that many clubs are there by grace of some owner. If s/he walks away because of losing such as the MPG and its funding, decades of support becomes irrelevant. Many clubs' fans are aware that RL is a poor monetary investment.
Those thoughts were very much in my mind for most of that game.

So for me it was not a spectacle or entertainment but traumatic. I do not want to experience it again: I'm sure nor do HKR, Wakey or Bulls fans.
Glad it made some people's day but it ruined many other people's days.

Where did you finish after the 7 middle 8 games ?

Would getting rid of the MPG really save fans the ordeal though? Obviously Hull KR fans would have had it a lot easier, but surely Salford fans would have had pretty much the same feelings going to sudden death games v Fev then London in rounds 5 and 6 of the middle 8s, knowing they would almost certainly be relegated if they lost either, barring big upsets elsewhere. As it happened, when they lost to London they knew they would have a second chance.

"Where did you finish after the 7 middle 8 games?"
IN THE PUB

This system isn't perfect, but none is.

Overall, I think it is worth sticking with.

Most of the alternatives suggested have been tried and binned for reasons that would still apply if they were brought back.

The MPG is a horrible way to be relegated, but is there a good way? And it isn't the underlying reason we went down.

The problem there is more with relegation rather than how it is 'achieved'. The only way that can be avoided is by denying a club like Leigh an opportunity to play in SL. Or now a club like us having a shot at getting back up.

A couple of great posts MR. Whilst it's not nice to down, by whatever means, everyone deserves the opportunity to come up, as I subscribe to the view that we are one game

Would you see the bottom of league 1 relegated and the top amateur side promoted

Now theres a good point

Automatic p&r kills the game

It's terrible for all the clubs involved, including those chasing promotion

We had a decade of comparative growth and stability and an improvement in the overall competition

Now it's just a race to avoid bottom & that just benefits the top 4 clubs, just like it has since 1973

P&r failed for decades and it's failing again

No, the NCL is amateur, League 1 is semi-pro/pro. Plus half the clubs in League 1 are there with a view to expanding the game, so it makes sense that we need to artificially keep them in there for now when in reality the best NCL clubs are better on the field. Besides that, Siddall, Leigh Miners etc don't have the facilities to deal with crowds they would potentially get in League 1.

If that was how the league structure was agreed then, there is no problem.
If there are only 2 or 3 "professional" leagues then, the bottom of the last tier would "only" get the proverbial wooden spoon.
However, IF the system was 1 up 1 down or, promotion/relegation through a play off game, so be it.
As others have said, there is nothing worse than getting relegated (apart from going out of business) but, the alternative is to create a closed shop.
There are of course arguments for having a "franchise" based top flight and this may be a good thing (especially with "expansion" clubs like Toulouse and Toronto in the comp) but, for now, we have promotion and relegation between the leagues.
Is this the beast system for the long term good of the game, who knows and the lack of a long term strategy is criminal but, to relegate a pro club into an amateur league and visa versa clearly wouldn't work.

So what you are saying is that there is a gap between those two leagues in things like club size, facilities etc that would make it hugely damaging for the team going down and often hugely damaging for the team going up

That's a little circular isn't it? Whether we have it or not its merits would be the same.

No doubt happy that you still had another chance

We don't have Automatic P and R

I think the points in the super8s should start back at 0 but the team finishing in 1st get 7 home games team in 2nd get 6 3rd 5 and so on.

Negatives selling season tickets ect not knowing home many home games at the beginning of the session how many home game a team would have....

Positives each position higher in the league you finish the more advantage you have but doesn't count any team out from the beginning like has happened in the last 2years.

If that was the agreed set up at the start of a particular season then why not subject to certain qualifying criteria?

because it would massively damage any league 1 club to ask them to play amateur RL for at least a year, and very few amateur clubs are in anyway capable of functioning as a semi-pro club?

Essentially yes , at that level there isn't necessarily the need to relegate

Obviously all dependant on if the amateur club wants to become professional

So no real issue , just mischief making to suggest it