greenshields is a good call.

you've blundered in your analysis by ignoring the fact he played 4 years in superleague, 03/04 at hull fc.

And whilst we're on about it, i'm pretty sure he played centre mostly over here.

Tomkins' defensive frailties and competency under the high ball has always been overstated since a couple of high profile errors in the 2012 CC semi. He's nowhere near as bad as some like to make out. The OP obviously has an agenda but I'll bite anyway - how anyone can question his passing game and making out he offers nothing chiming into the three quarter line is beyond me! The 4 seasons between 2010-2013 he scored 89 SL tries and created another 90 - not bad for someone who's nothing more than a broken field runner.

I'm with Wigg'n, if I was offered Tomkins at his peak or Radlinski at his it would be ST everyday of the week.

Barnett & Best were one of the best centre / wing partnerships at Hull in a long time .

I thought Mark McLinden was a very good player for London/ Harlequins .

well, was looking at the squad list for hull in that period, it was pretty impressive, and under mcrae looked like you'd kick on, but then you had your weird blips and then the coach is coming out saying there's a cancer in the club? wtf is going on then? That period should have been your launch pad imo.

Well, it kind of was, wasn't it.

The next season in 2005 we won the cup & 2006 we got to the GF. 2007 is where it started to go t!ts up.

You have blundered in a way that would be considered crazy even if uttered by woeful Wakefield's "Wild Thing," or Darrell Cardiss. You have confused Richard Rohan Barnett with Richie Barnett Jr.. The former was an ethnic Maori New Zealander who played for London Broncos 2001-2002. The latter was a black Englishman who played for Hull FC 2003-2004.

Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"You have blundered in a way that would be considered crazy even if uttered by woeful Wakefield's "Wild Thing," or Darrell Cardiss. You have confused Richard Rohan Barnett with Richie Barnett Jr.. The former was an ethnic Maori New Zealander who played for London Broncos 2001-2002. The latter was a black Englishman who played for Hull FC 2003-2004.'" news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 177395.stm just off barry, you're terrible at this rugby league stuff.

Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"You have blundered in a way that would be considered crazy even if uttered by woeful Wakefield's "Wild Thing," or Darrell Cardiss. You have confused Richard Rohan Barnett with Richie Barnett Jr.. The former was an ethnic Maori New Zealander who played for London Broncos 2001-2002. The latter was a black Englishman who played for Hull FC 2003-2004.'" news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 177395.stm just off barry, you're terrible at this rugby league stuff.

You've blundered in not realising there were two Richie Barnetts at Hull, both of which you mention in your post.

(and yes, he played , generally alongside Colin Best).

For you Jean that is a good call. One of my fav players, brilliantly talented.

Broncos with Tommy L, Dorny and Marty were brilliant to watch in full swing.

Now THAT'S a blunder. Dear me.

no scott grix









paul reilly was a fans fave at hudds and tough as nails, scored a hat trick for england too

told me to eff off one time as well, while he was on the field, first magic weekend if i remember correctly so 2007

Your knowledge of Rugby League is embarrassing you.



You'd be more respected if you kept quiet.

Perceptive as well as underrated. Not you BTW.

natch.



it was well deserved, i was telling him i didn't think he was a very good player, and that he had a temper issue and that his thigh tattoo was an incredibly poor choice and substandard artwork.

And i said it all incredibly politely, just as above, and hadn't been drinking on the journey down from warrington to cardiff.

In terms of Leeds FB's. Harris I think switching to the halves a lot mid-game and then playing HB on his return with Bradford probably counts against him.

Webb 2007-2008 was great. After his first back injury he never the same and became mouthy and niggly but still a good player nonetheless.

Hardaker hasn't had the longevity there like most of the 5 picked. However had he (and Leeds) carried on from last year I think they'd have probably included him over Dorn.

Both posts are rooted in what a great fullback might have been 10-15 years ago, and not what a great fullback is today. Fullback should be (and generally is, especially in the NRL) the most attacking player on the team, because he is the only player who isn't marked by an opposite number and therefore the entire attacking structure is based around getting the fullback in space. As someone who has both played fullback for the last decade and also done a fair bit of coaching, the modern game sees fullback as an attacking position.

Roger Tuivasa Sheck, Matt Moylan, Greg Inglis, Billy Slater, James Tedesco, Darius Boyd, Josh Dugan - when you think of these players, it's their ability to beat a defender, to hit a miss pass to their winger, to hit the right line, that comes to mind, not the fact they can catch a high kick. Billy Slater is one of the best fullbacks of all time and you still see him fluff some high kicks, but I can't believe anyone would take Paul Wellens over him.

In the NRL in the last few years what has happened is in most cases each team's most dangerous attacking weapon has been moved to fullback (if not already playing there). In the 2013 RLWC Final, Australia's backline was:
1. Slater (fullback)
2. Brett Morris (wing/fullback)
3. Inglis (fullback)
4. Hayne (fullback)
5. Boyd (fullback)

This wasn't because Austalia wanted a backline full of players all who had never dropped a high ball, it's because they wanted a really potent attacking backline. When this is the case, it's impossible to leave Tomkins out of a list of the best fullbacks in the Super League era.

6 pages and not a mention of the god Greg Eden. Shocking.

ha not surprised! mad man, used to love the biff did reilly, ran full pelt into fielden once

and often walked through players celebrating a try looking for abit of biff

Great post. Very well put.

I was always a big fan of Brett Hodgson. Brave as a lion, and a very smart footballer too.

He'll be there in a few years after starring at full back for Castleford and winning Man of Steel.

Leeds fans comparing Hardaker to wellens? Seriously? The student beater has had one good season and won man of steel when there was no competition. Wellens won it in an era with plenty of competition. Hardaker has looked about Leigh level this season, something Wellens has never done. Hardaker will never reach the heights true fullbacks reach like Wellens, Radlinski and Tomkins

Regards

King James

Henry Paul was a decent full back imo