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| Quote ="The Avenger"And thick as two short planks, ignorance is no excuse
What a fool!'"
Clearly he doesn't understand British history, the history of RL or the history of sport and how/why British sport grew across the world.
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| I really can't believe that people think that rugby and the bbc are out to undermine and destroy rugby league. The bbc by having the rights (which they don't have to have) and broadcAsting to tens of millions of potential viewers is not the mark of a corporation trying to destroy a game. If they wanted to they would just relinquish the rights and give them to channel 5 or something. No wonder RL in this country is a laughing stock when 99% of the fans are paranoid idiots
Regards
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| On the subject of Union keeping League down. If one of my staff decided to 'go it alone" and I felt that he/she might nick some of my clients or other staff, I'd crush their business without a moments hesitation.
Rugby League broke away from Union and as such, Union would have seen the new governing body as direct competition......and in every competition there are winners and losers.
Whining about losing makes us look like small minded fools with chips on our shoulders.
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| Union trying to put League down in the past is fine. The state backing Union up isn't.
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| Quote ="Him"Union trying to put League down in the past is fine. The state backing Union up isn't.'"
If I need a favour from someone in my attempts to crush my ex-employee's new business that threatens my own, I would probably start with old school mates. It's just unfortunate for League that the Union lot went to school with the people in power and as I say, its a competition and we were never gong to win, especially with the odds stacked against us.
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| Quote ="The Changing Man"If I need a favour from someone in my attempts to crush my ex-employee's new business that threatens my own, I would probably start with old school mates. It's just unfortunate for League that the Union lot went to school with the people in power and as I say, its a competition and we were never gong to win, especially with the odds stacked against us.'"
As for Public Schools..... I was taking to my boss recently, thoroughly decent chap who went to Malvern... I was stunned to learn that they did sports every afternoon, let me repeat, EVERY afternoon. So, all they know is Union.
My feeling is that it's deliberate from the point of view of the RFU. But they just use, as is stated, people who know no better, the people who will be running the media.
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| Quote ="moto748"www.newstatesman.com/politics/sport/2015/08/120-years-and-rugby-league-still-patronised-parochial'"
Good read.
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| Does nt tell us anything we don't already know, but always worth repeating to a wider audience.
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| So after pages of 'all the media is against RL' someone posts a link to a pro-RL article in the media?
Another recycled article blaming someone else for RLs failures (so that's now the RFU, the old school tie, the Vichy govt, the Establishment, the media and the Dubai govt), no wonder it got a round of applause. It's all part of having a victim mentality, it's never your fault.
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| Quote ="galliant"So after pages of 'all the media is against RL' someone posts a link to a pro-RL article in the media?
Another recycled article blaming someone else for RLs failures (so that's now the RFU, the old school tie, the Vichy govt, the Establishment, the media and the Dubai govt), no wonder it got a round of applause. It's all part of having a victim mentality, it's never your fault.'"
Are you suggesting that the facts detailed in that article are untrue?
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| Quote ="galliant"So after pages of 'all the media is against RL' someone posts a link to a pro-RL article in the media?
Another recycled article blaming someone else for RLs failures (so that's now the RFU, the old school tie, the Vichy govt, the Establishment, the media and the Dubai govt), no wonder it got a round of applause. It's all part of having a victim mentality, it's never your fault.'"
Yes, The New Statesman, that well known establishment media outlet. It quotes Gramsci ffs!
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| Quote ="ridlerbull"Yes, The New Statesman, that well known establishment media outlet. It quotes Gramsci ffs!'"
No-one has mentioned the 'establishment media' (apart from you to suit your argument), everyone has been bellyaching about no coverage in the media, would you not class the New Statesman as being in the media? What about the BBC who are showing the CC final live on BBC1. Only an 'idiot' would not count both outlets as being in the media (ffs)
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| Quote ="galliant"No-one has mentioned the 'establishment media' (apart from you to suit your argument), everyone has been bellyaching about no coverage in the media, would you not class the New Statesman as being in the media? What about the BBC who are showing the CC final live on BBC1. Only an 'idiot' would not count both outlets as being in the media (ffs)'"
You're making an even bigger fool of yourself!
Your ignorance of how historical events have shaped the way the modern sporting landscape appears today is either staggeringly imbecilic or you're pathetically ignoring it just to be a tw@
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| Quote ="galliant"No-one has mentioned the 'establishment media' (apart from you to suit your argument), everyone has been bellyaching about no coverage in the media, would you not class the New Statesman as being in the media? What about the BBC who are showing the CC final live on BBC1. Only an 'idiot' would not count both outlets as being in the media (ffs)'"
Now now son, don't spit your dummy out. There are various flaws in your argument so I'll just do a quick point by point:
- The establishment thing is implicit. Rugby League Express is the media. So is The Telegraph and Argus. Both have lots of rugby league in them. To argue that that means 'Rugby League has media coverage' in any way beyond the childishly literal is a bit silly.
- Given that, the fact that The New Statesman is not establishment is entirely relevant. It's a weekly magazine with a tiny circulation of 30k, almost exactly the same as Rugby League Express.
- Nobody thinks there is literally zero coverage of rugby league. If they are they are seriously deluded. Your comment about the final being on the BBC is irrelevant.
- My argument? I don't feel particularly strongly about media coverage of rugby league. If anything I like its underdog nature, and if I'd grown up in Sydney I'd probably find RL as irritating as I find soccer here.
In summary I just thought you were being a bit of an so I bit. I will get bored soon and will stop biting at your inane bait. You, however will remain an .
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"Being back in the country since 5 years ago I was amazed the total lack of RL covg in the Nationals. It's literally one small paragraph most days. Not sure what the RL can do about it but geez it is pretty sad to see.'"
Hope you enjoy the rest if your holiday.....
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| Well it better get better than today lol!
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"Well it better get better than today lol!'"
I feel for you. 14,500kms to witness that.
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| Wouldn't have missed it for the world! When I left England rovers were in danger of being wound up, or even worse taken over by Wilby and his crook mates and merged with hull. To come back to see them walking out at Wembley was very emotional.
Re the media I've been getting the independent in my London hotel room and have to say they have been giving the final really good coverage over the weekend. All is not lost!
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| Back onto the BBC.
1. It has been reported in the Times that the BBC have secured the rights for the CC and SL highlights until 2020. Maybe the OP of this thread (and other auntie bashing ones) could point out how this fits with the state led campaign to destroy RL?
2. The BBC Rugby League page is awash with positive stories and even though they have covered the disgusting goings on in Serbia, it isn't "linked" or easy to find.
[urlhttp://www.bbc.com/sport/0/rugby-league/34102910[/url
Surely "evil auntie" would have such terrible news plastered all over its RL landing page if she had it in for RL?
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| Quote ="The Changing Man"Back onto the BBC.
1. It has been reported in the Times that the BBC have secured the rights for the CC and SL highlights until 2020. Maybe the OP of this thread (and other auntie bashing ones) could point out how this fits with the state led campaign to destroy RL?
2. The BBC Rugby League page is awash with positive stories and even though they have covered the disgusting goings on in Serbia, it isn't "linked" or easy to find.
[urlhttp://www.bbc.com/sport/0/rugby-league/34102910[/url
Surely "evil auntie" would have such terrible news plastered all over its RL landing page if she had it in for RL?'"
Quote 1. It has been reported in the Times that the BBC have secured the rights for the CC and SL highlights until 2020. '"
Link please..
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| Quote ="atomic"Link please..'"
[urlhttp://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/sport/rugbyleague/article4543531.ece[/url
Given it's the Times, you'll need to pay to read the whole article....
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| Other points:
BBC keen for CC to revert to a spring comp
Viewing figures up by 10%, best since 2012
BBC to cover 2017 WC
Plus a quote of Nigel Wood lauding the BBC's coverage
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Really? Yet another new profile Gutters? You're completely insane, seriously.
Blocked it.
BBC Story anyway: www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/34110361
According to some, including the now blocked moron mentioned above who's trying to ride his high horse this morning, the incompetent RFL had given away all TV rights (including the Challenge Cup and international games) to one channel for the price of a bag of chips not so long ago. Obviously not..
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Really? Yet another new profile Gutters? You're completely insane, seriously.
Blocked it.
BBC Story anyway: www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/34110361
According to some, including the now blocked moron mentioned above who's trying to ride his high horse this morning, the incompetent RFL had given away all TV rights (including the Challenge Cup and international games) to one channel for the price of a bag of chips not so long ago. Obviously not..
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