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| Think this talk wouldn't be happening if we hadn't bottled it against KR last week.
To be honest the SL teams have improved a hell of a lot form and squad wise since the end of the regular season.
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| I'm not entirely surprised by who's won and who's lost so far, but I expected the margins in both Wakey/Brad and Salford/Leigh to be a lot less. Halifax have been a positive surprise, Sheffield have been on the end of expected scorelines. If you're going to be honest, the series was only realistically about who gets 5th between Leigh and Bradford with perhaps Wakefield being the likeliest 4th placed team.
The acid test for the whole comp is definitely Leigh v Wakefield.
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| Agreed.
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| Quote ="Budgiezilla"Out of the championship v SL sides so far, Halifax had a great 77 minutes v Widnes and a decent 75 minutes at Hull KR. Leigh have had a great 40 minutes v Hull KR.....that's about it.'"
I think we might have scraped a decent 30 seconds against Wakey
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| Quote ="jonny the leyther"Think this talk wouldn't be happening if we hadn't bottled it against KR last week.
To be honest the SL teams have improved a hell of a lot form and squad wise since the end of the regular season.'"
No they haven't. Leigh have been found out....simple as.
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| Knew this would happen before long. It would be very naïve to expect the Championship clubs to be competitive straight away. The new system has the best chance of thriving after a few years as the Championship sides start to become accustomed to playing the Super League teams. Right now, it's pretty much a new experience for them.
A Championship team can still finish 5th, win one game and be in SL remember.
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| Leigh have enough quality to beat some SL sides on there day. Money isn't the big disadvantage in the 7 game series. It's experience! They should of beat Hull KR. Big score lines happen in rugby. Look at Leeds vs Warrington in the opening round of the 8's...
No excuses for them. Leigh and the other championship teams will have to learn, bounce back and put themselves in confident moods for that million pound game one of them may find themselves in. The only way to do that is to try and compete till the end.
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| Quote ="lister"Earlier this year Currie got 2 games for hardly any contact on Silverwood, so how many games should that get?.
The RFL need to be consistent and take Chase's record into account too.'"
Ha, clearly didn't watch the game and commenting on assumption. Muppet
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| But it should be 1 down 1 up. And there should be a Calder, Humberside and Cheshire sides, so no more Hull FC, Hull KR, Widnes , Warrington, Wakefield, Castleford, Featherstone, Halifax and Huddersfield.
So, yeah that means a 10 team SL, Wigan, Saints, Leeds, Leigh, Bradford, Humberside Hawks, Catalonia Dragons, Cheshire Cats, Calder Lakers, Toulouse Olympique.
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| Quote ="OzWelsh"But it should be 1 down 1 up. And there should be a Calder, Humberside and Cheshire sides, so no more Hull FC, Hull KR, Widnes , Warrington, Wakefield, Castleford, Featherstone, Halifax and Huddersfield.
So, yeah that means a 10 team SL, Wigan, Saints, Leeds, Leigh, Bradford, Humberside Hawks, Catalonia Dragons, Cheshire Cats, Calder Lakers, Toulouse Olympique.'"
Wouldn't Leigh be swallowed up by Wigan!
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| Quote ="Gadger"Ha, clearly didn't watch the game and commenting on assumption. Muppet'"
Thank you for your assumption too.
I did watch the game live and my comment was made after seeing the incident. Even if it's accidental contact it's still contact with an official.
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| Quote ="spegs"No they haven't. Leigh have been found out....simple as.'"
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| The offence is deliberate contact with a match official. Not just contact! Accidents happen. He trips and stumbled into him. He wasn't in full control of his balance. Hock and currie were.
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| Quote ="AntonyGiant"Leigh have enough quality to beat some SL sides on there day. Money isn't the big disadvantage in the 7 game series. It's experience! They should of beat Hull KR. Big score lines happen in rugby. Look at Leeds vs Warrington in the opening round of the 8's...
No excuses for them. Leigh and the other championship teams will have to learn, bounce back and put themselves in confident moods for that million pound game one of them may find themselves in. The only way to do that is to try and compete till the end.'"
Total sense on the VT.
What next?
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| Quote ="OzWelsh"But it should be 1 down 1 up. And there should be a Calder, Humberside and Cheshire sides, so no more Hull FC, Hull KR, Widnes , Warrington, Wakefield, Castleford, Featherstone, Halifax and Huddersfield.
So, yeah that means a 10 team SL, Wigan, Saints, Leeds, Leigh, Bradford, Humberside Hawks, Catalonia Dragons, Cheshire Cats, Calder Lakers, Toulouse Olympique.'"
Hilarious.... Now move on quietly please.
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| Quote ="salford sport"The offence is deliberate contact with a match official. Not just contact! Accidents happen. He trips and stumbled into him. He wasn't in full control of his balance. Hock and currie were.'"
Did you see the currie incident? he didn't even know the ref was there, he was talking to someone else and looking in another direction.
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| The concept needs to run for 5 seasons plus the main thing is the championship club need to be allowed to spend the same salary cap at the moment Leigh can only go to a million the extra £800 k gets you some serious quality players, Leigh's biggest fault is they can't build pressure in the championship as they have already scored long range ,its a total different ball game playing the super league clubs,alls not lost 5 games to go
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| Quote ="jesus-is-coming"The concept needs to run for 5 seasons plus the main thing is the championship club need to be allowed to spend the same salary cap at the moment Leigh can only go to a million the extra £800 k gets you some serious quality players, Leigh's biggest fault is they can't build pressure in the championship as they have already scored long range ,its a total different ball game playing the super league clubs,alls not lost 5 games to go'"
Don't necessarily agree on the salary cap but do on Leigh effectively being too good for the other Championship teams.
I'd say the answer is to improve the Championship to the point where all or most clubs are at or very close to Leigh's standard.
That would provide Leigh more intense games closer to SL standard.
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| It's not over yet for anyone and it'll go right down to the last game where a championship team will have the opportunity to go up. I as a Trinity fan am not 100% comfortable or confident of being safe, we've got just 1 win and are solid favourites for the million pound game where it's down to who plays best on the day.
That said, I posted months ago that I believe promotion will be a 3 or 4 year cycle.
Teams from the Championship will learn what it takes to get up and once up they'll find it very difficult to stay up. They might yo yo for a few seasons before eventually staying up and consolidating themselves as a SL club.
It's very similar to what we see in the Premier League, where clubs get promoted and come back down straight away but they learn both on and more importantly off the field and become better and more capable as a result. The next time they go up they have a stronger chance of staying up but might still come down again before eventually staying up for a protracted period on their 3rd promotion.
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| Quote It's very similar to what we see in the Premier League, where clubs get promoted and come back down straight away but they learn both on and more importantly off the field and become better and more capable as a result. The next time they go up they have a stronger chance of staying up but might still come down again before eventually staying up for a protracted period on their 3rd promotion.'"
Have you got any examples of this and if so over what period did they finally achieve safety in the top division?
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| Quote ="wire-quin"Have you got any examples of this and if so over what period did they finally achieve safety in the top division?'"
West Brom?
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| Quote ="wire-quin"Have you got any examples of this and if so over what period did they finally achieve safety in the top division?'"
Go and gave look for yourself!
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| Bolton went up and failed badly the 1st and 2nd times. Went straight back down both times but rebuilt and went up again 3 seasons later and then stayed in the Premiership for 12 seasons.
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| Quote ="lister"Thank you for your assumption too.
I did watch the game live and my comment was made after seeing the incident. Even if it's accidental contact it's still contact with an official.'"
By that logic Tony Carroll should have been banned for life.
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