And yet that's exactly what you did. You wished the injury ended his career. Nothing to do with heat of the moment. It was well after the incident. You're a fan not a player, what Hardaker just did (and Tomkins in the CC Final) was in the heat of the moment. Yours wasn't, it showed your character.


I have thanks. Not directed at the ref, unless Hardaker has very poor eyesight.


For some reason only you are saying it's directed at the ref when no-one else is. You seem desperate for it to be directed at the ref, hence your desperation in putting it on here with a little clip and a 2 year old article on the Leeds website about LGBT equality.


Is it? Whilst I think the word used elevates it above most other swearing, the sport would have to then make all swearing on the pitch unacceptable too. As I said, half the league would be suspended. A combination of watching/hearing on remarks on tv and hearing them at the game itself leads me to believe there is a massive amount of swearing and abuse going on between players all the time during games.


Why would you say that? I've actually heard Wigan players using similar words in the past, including ones which could be thought to be homophobic (though I don't personally think they are in the context that they are used, I think they're just used as other swear words by players in the heat of the moment). But you see what I did was think about it for a second and understand the context it was said in. What I didn't do was make up a load of rubbish about it being said to the ref and then rush online to post about, maybe you should take a moritorium from posting for a few hours after a game? It seems like you have trouble composing yourself.


Oh dear.


Don't like being challenged do we. Never mind, I'm sure Leeds players, or god forbid even Danny McGuire, will do something else in the rest of the season to get you frothing at the mouth and unable to control yourself again.

The only thing I can't work out is why you didn't go with the kick by Ablett?


As I said, a letter or a word in Hardakers' ear about the language he uses. If he does it again the ban him for stupidity more than anything else.

Disgusting

Book should be thrown at him

So now we are to have a go at players,who say things in the heat of the moment do you think they are playing tidily winks or cards, bloody hell get a life

So you condone homophobic abuse do you?

Would that be your response to a teenager who gets called, "f...ing f..." at school?

Paul March, Cougars player-coach is having to serve a two month stadium ban 'just' for using a swear word when questioning a referee's decision. Not on TV, after hooter and mistaken identity anyway.

Did he?

If so then that's worse than Hardakers outburst which at least has the mitigation of happening during the heat of a game.

Neither is acceptable no matter who the comments are aimed at!
There are lines of acceptability that 99.9% of players adhere to 99.9% of the time but every now and then you get players crossing that line and they should be dealt with severely.

Back to JP, if he is on camera saying that then for a poster boy, former GB and England Captain, players spokesman and budding media pundit it's career suicide akin to Ron Atkinsons racist comment.

he gives a penalty away & says something, then as the camera goes on him your clearly see him say "you bent c¥nt" not nice but nothing will happen.

25th minute JP said it.

time the RFL grew some here. I don't follow RU but recall a player missing the Lions tour last year having been red carded for calling the ref a cheat.

The refs might not be the best in the world but the players should ALWAYS respect them. Yes sir no sir three bags full sir. It's a fundamental part of the game. It's not football. Kids are watching and doing it themselves. If anyone feels kids won't follow go and watch school football you will be shocked.
Whoever Hardaker directed it at is irrelevant. It was live on TV and is all over social media. If the press pick it up and run with it without action by club and RFL it will show the sport in a very bad light.

Edited Durham Giant

I saw that as well; the 'bent' element of the attack could easily have been referring to his decision making, but given that in certain circles it can also have homophobic connotations, it was a poor choice of words.

The myth that RL players respect the referee is well and truly out-dated now; this game provides two highly visible examples, but they are far from the exception - it's become a regular occurrence. Big daft lads, heat of the moment, tough contact sport etc - all nonsense excuses for conduct that is wholly unacceptable.

if we were to discipline players/coaches for using swear words then shaun wane would be banned every week
nearly every time the camera pans to him he is shouting obscenities and nothing ever gets mentioned.

i hate seeing RL players shouting and swearing at the ref but in the heat of the moment with tension and adrenaline running high then you can understand why.... however if a player directly swears or uses any sort of foul language to an official then he should be punished, i don't want to see RL players acting like footballers, and yes that includes danny brough!

Whether it was or wasn't mistaken identity, PM has a history of abusing officials and was serving a playing ban for the same thing at the time of his last alledged indiscretion.

How do we know it was homophobic? Maybe he was referring to the meat variety in gravy found in working class supermarkets like Iceland, frequented by people from Leeds.

After all, people call Matty Bowen a pudding because he's useless.

Regards

King James

Yep. I'm a Leeds fan, and would hate him to miss games, but the RFL must act on this. A ban is in order.

You've revealed an awful lot about yourself with this post.

We've already had a respect for the officials in rugby league that is missing in other sports (football been a good example, as as soon as the whistle is blown they get swamped by the players trying to argue with him).
As soon as you start playing the game at school level you are always taught to call the ref Sir. The last game I went to I heard somebody in the crowd shout "come on sir, that was a knock on". We get brought up to treat the refs with respect.
However it does seem that we are moving away from this. A ref now struggles to award a try without players begging for him to check it with the video ref. My opinion is that it is coming from the players becoming frustrated with certain inconsistencies within the refereeing. We all complain about it as supporters, and a lot of the players also complain on things like Twitter while they're watching the game.

I'd suggest the moderators of this forum edit the thread title, as it is in fact libellous. Were it a question rather than a statement of fact...

There is no evidence of any player in the Warrington Wolves vs Leeds Super League fixture aiming homophobic abuse at a match official. There is nothing in the match reports of the referee or match commissioner to indicate such an incident took place.

There is nothing in the video clip placed on this forum to support such an assertion.

Wow!

I do not but if we did not have the internet we would not be talking about it so has I said he was just frustrated and had to let of steam so get a life

He called him bent twice, both after decisions he didn't like. The second was just before a scrum in the 2nd half, I think a knock on had been ruled.

If the red heard it, surprised he took no action. I think Ablett was seen swearing at the ref as well as Hardaker. If I said that on an amateur pitch I'd be off.

That said, it's just name calling, if the ref can handle it I suggest people man up and deal with it.

Exactly this! How many times have they shown this shaved baboon kicking the fixtures and fittings and quite clearly swearing. Worryingly he's the coach.

When Cas fans were guilty of homophobic abuse there was a 40k fine (20 suspended) and the offenders were banned for a year or 2.

There's prior punishment out there for this type of behaviour.