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Backed NSW half time, Qland full time and still wondering how I didn't collect. 
Did make me nearly vomit a bit when they ran through the teams pre-match with a comment on each player. 
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| Quote ="WIZEB"Great game.
Backed NSW half time, Qland full time and still wondering how I didn't collect.
Did make me nearly vomit a bit when they ran through the teams pre-match with a comment on each player.
So and so was raised by a single mother who used to drive the team bus to all games.
So and so helps little old ladies across the road.
So and so does lots and lots of work for animal charidies.
Etc, etc.
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I quite liked that, as a bit of fun, ("Gallen has had three fights as an amateur boxer and won them all. So there"icon_wink.gif but some of them were a bit cringey.
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| Quote ="Him"I don't think they would, because the dummy runners ran through a gap in the defensive line and so didn't actually obstruct any defenders. Unlike what often happens in SL where lazy dummy runners just run at the line regardless of where the gaps are and don't run all the way through.'"
Or where defensive players move into that gap because of a poor defensive read and throw themselves to the floor.
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Booked 18th June and 9th July off work, be headin for Walkabout in Glasgow.
C'MON BLUES!!!
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| Quote ="Rooster Booster"The TV figures are always a complete work of fabrication based on averages which do not tally. But it is the only thing they can go on. One in five. Yeah Really.
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| Quote ="robins up north"Booked 18th June and 9th July off work, be headin for Walkabout in Glasgow.
C'MON BLUES!!!'"
I doubt it mate, W'about don't subscribe to Premier Sports. Try an Irish bar. |
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Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"TV ratings for SoO were amazing. 4.053 million viewers tuned in around Australia. That means one in five Australians were watching.
www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... zrrtv.html
This is amazing when you consider that the game is popular mostly in only half of the nation. (yet 420,000 people watched in Melbourne, which is more than one in ten people in Melbourne!).
Translate that to the British population, it would mean that 11 million Brits were watching. Rugby league can only dream of such attention. But has a British soccer game ever achieved 11 million viewers?'"
I had reported TV ratings of over 4 million based on an article in the Sydney Morning Herald. The actual capital city TV audience according to OzTam ratings, as reported in [i The Australian[/i was just under 2.5 million:
[iOf the 2.487 million viewers who tuned in to watch the Blues win at Brisbane's Suncorp Stadium, 1.288 million lived in Sydney.
There were 747,000 viewers in Brisbane, 426,000 in Melbourne and 86,000 in Adelaide. The game was not screened in Perth.[/i
If the SMH figure is correct then the rest of the audience must have been from rural areas.
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Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"TV ratings for SoO were amazing. 4.053 million viewers tuned in around Australia. That means one in five Australians were watching.
www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... zrrtv.html
This is amazing when you consider that the game is popular mostly in only half of the nation. (yet 420,000 people watched in Melbourne, which is more than one in ten people in Melbourne!).
Translate that to the British population, it would mean that 11 million Brits were watching. Rugby league can only dream of such attention. But has a British soccer game ever achieved 11 million viewers?'"
I had reported TV ratings of over 4 million based on an article in the Sydney Morning Herald. The actual capital city TV audience according to OzTam ratings, as reported in [i The Australian[/i was just under 2.5 million:
[iOf the 2.487 million viewers who tuned in to watch the Blues win at Brisbane's Suncorp Stadium, 1.288 million lived in Sydney.
There were 747,000 viewers in Brisbane, 426,000 in Melbourne and 86,000 in Adelaide. The game was not screened in Perth.[/i
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You are talking to a brick wall. RoosterBooster does not think. He is the water carrier for the Newtown Jets and has trouble with abstract issues like audience ratings. |
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Absolute gash calls from the ref helped keep it exciting to the last second.
Aussie refs and no better than ours just more arrogant.
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Aussie refs and no better than ours just more arrogant.'"
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Not rural - regional.
There is nothing rural about Newcastle, Wollongong or the Gold Coast.
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Not rural - regional.
There is nothing rural about Newcastle, Wollongong or the Gold Coast.
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| Quote ="roopy"Not rural - regional.
There is nothing rural about Newcastle, Wollongong or the Gold Coast.
Slanted reports love to quote only the capitol city figures, but the strongest support for Rugby League in Australia comes from regional NSW and Queensland, where SOO is watched by well over half of households - some figures going close to 80%.'"
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Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"I had reported TV ratings of over 4 million based on an article in the Sydney Morning Herald. The actual capital city TV audience according to OzTam ratings, as reported in [iThe Australian[/i was just under 2.5 million:
[iOf the 2.487 million viewers who tuned in to watch the Blues win at Brisbane's Suncorp Stadium, 1.288 million lived in Sydney.
There were 747,000 viewers in Brisbane, 426,000 in Melbourne and 86,000 in Adelaide. The game was not screened in Perth.[/i
If the SMH figure is correct then the rest of the audience must have been from rural areas.
www.theaustralian.com.au/news/la ... 6935580404'"
I have no idea why they talk about capital city ratings here and not total audience. You were right on the 4mill total audience.
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Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"I had reported TV ratings of over 4 million based on an article in the Sydney Morning Herald. The actual capital city TV audience according to OzTam ratings, as reported in [iThe Australian[/i was just under 2.5 million:
[iOf the 2.487 million viewers who tuned in to watch the Blues win at Brisbane's Suncorp Stadium, 1.288 million lived in Sydney.
There were 747,000 viewers in Brisbane, 426,000 in Melbourne and 86,000 in Adelaide. The game was not screened in Perth.[/i
If the SMH figure is correct then the rest of the audience must have been from rural areas.
www.theaustralian.com.au/news/la ... 6935580404'"
I have no idea why they talk about capital city ratings here and not total audience. You were right on the 4mill total audience.
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Also why do they focus on capital city ratings? I don't understand the relevance or point? Surely total audience is what matters?
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"Also why do they focus on capital city ratings? I don't understand the relevance or point? Surely total audience is what matters?'" It makes AFL look good. They only lose ratings from a few middle sized cities like Geelong and Ballerat, but League loses Newcastle, Wollongong, Gold Coast, Cairns, etc etc etc - adding up to about 3 million potential viewers in the strongest league areas in the world, because League is the only game in town in NSW and Queensland country areas. |
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Of more interest than who watched and where, is that Brett Morris fractured his shoulder and damaged ligaments when he scored, but played on and stopped Boyd scoring a try to equalise.
That's what RL and Origin is about, and as a proxy Maroon, I salute him.
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| Quote ="Chris28"Of more interest than who watched and where, is that Brett Morris fractured his shoulder and damaged ligaments when he scored, but played on and stopped Boyd scoring a try to equalise.
That's what RL and Origin is about, and as a proxy Maroon, I salute him.'"
Josh Morris is out for several weeks, he was diagnosed with a posterior cruciate ligament injury but still got up and run down Greg Inglis as he surged through the line. |
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A fantastic game. Might have to watch it again over the weekend.
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Both Morris brothers are out for Origin 2 and Brett is out for the series.
Billy Slater and Cam Smith are doubtful for Origin 2, Slater more than Smith, while Cooper Cronk is gone for the series.
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Quote ="CGD"The overall audience ratings are extremely reliable, with a margin of error of a few percent, at most. Why do you think broadcasters pay a billion dollars for rights? Or advertisers pay multi million dollars for their brands? Do you think they would invest so heavily without very reliable data behind their decisions?'"
No they're not. Advertisers pay the money as it's the only terms of reference they have.
OzTam works by ONLY 3,500 households in the whole of Australia that have a box to press every time they turn the telly over and who it the home turns over. That's it, then they multiply it and come to the figure. ALso a programme is registered as being watched if it on for a few minutes. Think about that from the over 150 mins on telly the other night.
It's not accurate, it's an average.
www.oztam.com.au/theoztampanel.aspx
[iOzTAM ratings are viewing estimates drawn from actual viewing behaviour in a panel of homes that is representative of the wider population.[/i
www.oztam.com.au/faqs.aspx
Don't shoot the messenger purely because you don't like what's being said. 1 in 5 people in Australia watched it live. Oh please. |
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No they're not. Advertisers pay the money as it's the only terms of reference they have.
OzTam works by ONLY 3,500 households in the whole of Australia that have a box to press every time they turn the telly over and who it the home turns over. That's it, then they multiply it and come to the figure. ALso a programme is registered as being watched if it on for a few minutes. Think about that from the over 150 mins on telly the other night.
It's not accurate, it's an average.
www.oztam.com.au/theoztampanel.aspx
[iOzTAM ratings are viewing estimates drawn from actual viewing behaviour in a panel of homes that is representative of the wider population.[/i
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Quote ="Rooster Booster"No they're not. Advertisers pay the money as it's the only terms of reference they have.
OzTam works by ONLY 3,500 households in the whole of Australia that have a box to press every time they turn the telly over and who it the home turns over. That's it, then they multiply it and come to the figure. ALso a programme is registered as being watched if it on for a few minutes. Think about that from the over 150 mins on telly the other night.
It's not accurate, it's an average.
www.oztam.com.au/theoztampanel.aspx
[iOzTAM ratings are viewing estimates drawn from actual viewing behaviour in a panel of homes that is representative of the wider population.[/i
www.oztam.com.au/faqs.aspx
Don't shoot the messenger purely because you don't like what's being said. 1 in 5 people in Australia watched it live. Oh please.'"
That is the same method that all figures like these are based on.
Its a broad based number of viewers and they extrapolate the figures.
All Political Polls are done in the same way.
Do you think they can ask the 4 million viewers what they were watching and they all say "yes we were watching"?
Sponsors take the Oztam figures realistic enough to base their financial investments on.
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Quote ="Rooster Booster"No they're not. Advertisers pay the money as it's the only terms of reference they have.
OzTam works by ONLY 3,500 households in the whole of Australia that have a box to press every time they turn the telly over and who it the home turns over. That's it, then they multiply it and come to the figure. ALso a programme is registered as being watched if it on for a few minutes. Think about that from the over 150 mins on telly the other night.
It's not accurate, it's an average.
www.oztam.com.au/theoztampanel.aspx
[iOzTAM ratings are viewing estimates drawn from actual viewing behaviour in a panel of homes that is representative of the wider population.[/i
www.oztam.com.au/faqs.aspx
Don't shoot the messenger purely because you don't like what's being said. 1 in 5 people in Australia watched it live. Oh please.'"
That is the same method that all figures like these are based on.
Its a broad based number of viewers and they extrapolate the figures.
All Political Polls are done in the same way.
Do you think they can ask the 4 million viewers what they were watching and they all say "yes we were watching"?
Sponsors take the Oztam figures realistic enough to base their financial investments on.
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It's mathematics. Sample and statistics.
"Only" 3500? If distributed across demographics randomly, such a sample size is extremely reliable when extrapolated. As I said, the error margins are within a few percent, at most. They would often be one perfect off reality.
Don't like it? Doesn't suit your own opinion? You had better challenge the foundations of mathematics then. Good luck. A Nobel Prize awaits.
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State of origin is the toughest team sporting contest on earth.
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Talk of inglis moving to 6 and Thurston to 7.
With either Chambers or Nielsen playing at Centre.
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| Quote ="CGD"It's mathematics. Sample and statistics.
"Only" 3500? If distributed across demographics randomly, such a sample size is extremely reliable when extrapolated. As I said, the error margins are within a few percent, at most. They would often be one perfect off reality.
Don't like it? Doesn't suit your own opinion? You had better challenge the foundations of mathematics then. Good luck. A Nobel Prize awaits.'"
I would love to hear your justification (regression analysis) to how 3500 makes a good sample size of what 20,000,000 
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