Steady on, kids. The source for this was the Manchester Evening News, colloquially known as the Manchester Evening Speculator. Their [imodus operandi[/i when it comes to Rugby League is to randomly throw names and stories around. Some hit, some miss.

The man Marwan wants for the job is Brian Noble, and he is prepared to wait. For now.

So to sum up, Koukash thinks Noble is gash at his existing job, but is simultaneously THE best man on the planet for this new job. Why, he's even better than some world renowned rugby league god who is a household name but would still only be second best to Noble.

It makes perfect sense to me.

If you had used the full quotes you would se that i said they tend to use it

Very few Phd's use the title=#FF0000 Dr outside of academia it is seen as being a bit pretentious otherwise.

You might use it =#FF0000in a relevant enviroment such as work specifically related to say Engineering work eg like Marwan would use his doctorate in Engineering when engaging in Engineering type work or discussions. As i understand it he does not use it in everyday life.

So i stated they use it in academia or in a relevant work enviroment . Very few use it as a general moniker outside of these two specific enviroments.

Wow i am impressed you went out with someone who had a Phd.

My wife is a Dr with both a medical doctorate and and a Phd doctorate. If you insist maybe i will start introducing my wife as Doctor doctor. All the other Phd's i know do not use the title Dr except in very specific circumstances. When doing a CV for a job, publictations, lecturing / training. When applying for a bank loan or signing a court statement. NOt one of them ever uses it when booking a plane ticket to avoid being collared at 30,000 feet with a medical emergency.

If you look at etiquette in Britain very very few with Phds use the title doctor outside of specific enviroments as a i said academia or WORK . a quick google search would show this. ( outside of the Uk it is very different ie in mainland euprope and the US).

Yes. That absolutely [imust[/i be it.

Another way of looking at it is that during the process of freshening up the coaching staff - a process which involved speaking to Iestyn Harris with a view to him becoming assistant to Brian Noble - Marwan realised that Nobby's skills and experience could be better employed in a much broader role within the club, a role similar to that previously occupied by Graham Lowe, but with a broader remit.

He views this role as essential and so, as any competent businessman would, has a contingency plan in place in case Nobby declines the offer. The Manchester Evening News has speculated that this involves Tim Sheens.

Doesn't sound quite so daft when you express it that way, does it?

You may all bow down and call me Lord.

Anyone asking how I earned the title, it was by the due process of winning a game of Catan.

I will allow the unwashed to stoop to using Sir, if they cannot remember which title I wish to bistow upon myself tomorrow.

Personally I like the title 'The Good Dr.' I think he should copyright it before some other upstart tries to pinch it like they did his name on twitter.

I have no idea how much he uses the title in the different roles he has... no one on here does unless that person inhabits academia, horse-racing, management training, rugby etc. and still has the time to post on here.

Many at Salford like the moniker. He appeared like a Dr Who to save us. He has had the presence of a medical doctor to mend a wounded club.

The amount I know of his life suggests that getting to that standing in academia is praiseworthy: most PhDs do not start as refugees. If he wants to wear the badge with pride, he has earned it.

So what? We know him as the doctor, I bet RL headquarters know him as something else.

To be fair, two of the women in my life are FCAs, formerly ACAs. Both of them have degrees from very good universities (not PhDs mind) and both of them say that the work getting their qualification absolutely dwarfed anything that university threw at them.

Popular RLFANS poster Dux is a Doctor of English Literature.

Much better to have a Good Doctor in charge at the club instead of [itumulo pueri[/i.

Apparently the [iMr[/i thing with surgeons harks back to when the doctor would call the local barber to [ibleed[/i his patient as a form of anaesthetic before a procedure.

To be fair, I don't often introduce myself as MR Offside Monkey.

However, I can imagine Eddie when he's chatting referring to, say, the Wigan coach as Mr. Wane to add a certain drama.

And of course you know what my net worth is and from whence my wealth comes - impressive.

You took my anecdote of someone not using the title in a professional environment as an attempt to impress you? As I said, one only has to stand next to you with their mouth shut...



Agreed. Britain is notoriously free of class distinctions and your finger in the air guestimate carries tremendous weight, particularly with the "see Google" citation to back up your rigorous research.

If Marwan wants to call himself Doctor (or anything else for that matter) then surely that's up to him (as long as he's entitled to). It really is no concern of anyone else (unless of course they're just jealous of him).

I have also noticed that a certain Gallifrean timelord also likes to refer to himself as "The Doctor" without any proof that he is either a medical doctor or has a relevant PhD in any accepted academic subject, let alone restricting it use use a respective academic environment! How dare he get away with this and on a national television show to boot!*

* The above rant makes about as much sense as most arguments on here make in relation to Marwan Koukash and his actual and/or reported usage of the term "Doctor".

To be fair to said gallifrean, he does have an advantage over marwan, in being fictitious and all that ...

And most people make the "whoosh..." sound whilst simulating a jet going overhead to intimate that someone didn't get the point... for others it could just as easily be a London Underground tube train

Booking an airline ticket is just about the only non job related situation where I would consider using the title Dr. It improves the chance of an upgrade. It can also be useful on a driving licence.

I said it made perfect sense to me. Who said it sounded daft? I mean, it obviously does to you, but...

I do see a flaw in your summation, though. Call me pedantic if you like, but should Nobby astonishingly decline the offer, that won't alter the possibly annoying fact that someone else has already been given his old job anyway.

I said it sounded daft. Because it does. Your inference that because Marwan (without evidence) thinks he's 'gash' at one job, he can't be suitable for another. Daft.

As for the flaw, it was more of a deliberate omission. I'm well aware of the implications for Nobby, but isn't it interesting that he [istill[/i hasn't just walked away? What does that tell us?

Well if you can make uninformed statements about someone it's good enough for me.

You've now left me wondering why the Leythers struggled for all those years while you was sitting on all that financial knowledge and wealth. Ps I won't call you crazy I left that years ago in the playgrounds.

Well, one thing it [imight[/i tell us - in conjunction with the oft mentioned necessity of having his legal adviser present - is that he's considering a legal challenge to his dismissal. Simply walking away would weaken any case he [imight[/i wish to progress.

No, if there was an inference, that's not it.


You are? Well, that's a relief, because I did wonder.


You thought a man with a lucrative contract might "walk away" from it? Why on earth would anyone with a brain do that? No, it is singularly uninteresting that he has not "walked away". If that told us anything, it would simply be that Noble is not an idiot.

Sorry. By "walk away", I meant turn the new job down. Although that would effectively be walking away from the club, it surely wouldn't affect any legal case he wishes to bring would it? In fact, as the job he had has been given to someone else, I'd have thought accepting a new role in the same organisation would weaken his case, not strengthen it, so why not turn it down?

This is why I find it all a bit mysterious. That and the fact that Nobby was widely reported to have been on a rolling 18 month contract, and so could have been eased out of the coaching role in, what?, four months time? had Marwan indeed decided he was "gash".

I suppose we'll find out soon enough.

Iestyn Harris is the epitome of gash at coaching. His record is abysmal. Some people are just meant to be assistants.

It could be said, and who am I to discuss legal tactics, that "promoting" Noble to Director of Rugby or whatever isn't an end to the contract, so if Noble leaves it is a resignation, and thus attracts no compensation. Although I doubt that was in anyone's thinking.

Please inform me what has been uninformed about my comments?



Secondly, if the Dr. wishes to "invest" his money in a rugby league club, that's up to him. I am sure I will make more of a financial return keeping it in the bank, even at current interest rates.