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Quote ="WireFanatic III"Wrong.
Virgin Media do want Premier, but they want it bundled with the XL package and Premier Sports don't want that, they want it as a separate subscription. Nothing at all to do with not being high enough profile.'"
It's the other way round.
www.loverugbyleague.com/news_134 ... es-on.html
PS don't wan tto be a premium standalone on Virgin because on Sky they sell the channel directly to customers, whereas on Virgin they would need to go through them as host broadcaster and pay them a %.
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Quote ="WireFanatic III"Wrong.
Virgin Media do want Premier, but they want it bundled with the XL package and Premier Sports don't want that, they want it as a separate subscription. Nothing at all to do with not being high enough profile.'"
It's the other way round.
www.loverugbyleague.com/news_134 ... es-on.html
PS don't wan tto be a premium standalone on Virgin because on Sky they sell the channel directly to customers, whereas on Virgin they would need to go through them as host broadcaster and pay them a %.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Do you have a newish TV? If so, you can connect your laptop to the TV and watch on the big screen, and all for a tenner a month without having to fork out the exhorbitant amount us Sky customers do in order to watch the TV version of Premier Sports each week.
Premier have done a great job with the Championships. Their style is homely, which suits the Championships, but very professional and their production crew are all rugby league fans, which you would know if you bought last months Forty20 magazine as I did (great mag that, well worth reading).
They also show matches from different levels of RL. I've seen college RL, amateur RL and international RL from Canada on there as well as the NRL and Championship matches. They bloody well deserve the World Cup on their enthusiasm for RL alone. I hope loads of people sign up for their world cup coverage and give their coffers a boost so that they are still with us for next season.
Sky weren't interested in sharing the England matches. If this world cup is successful then Sky may have a Paralympics moment (the BBC officially regretted not putting in a higher bid for the Paralympics when they saw how successful they were). If that happens then that could be very useful for us in the future as clearly Sky have been withdrawing from rugby league over the last few seasons.'"
I'm not talking about me, i am someone that has various devices and tech savy, cable, ps3, ipad, roku to name a few but i am referring to millions of potential viewers not being able to access the channel, it is not the answer "oh you can get it online so just plug it in to your tv"...oh which the quality is still quite cr@p. I do get MLB and NFL game pass via my Roku and PS3 and the quality is HD but that is not the point.
It is the way it is, it's a shame Premier can't get their product on various tv platforms
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| Given that the best senario is having the games on Beeb or other free to air.
Then the rest is down to the bidders.
The RFL can't force Sky to take the rest of the games and it would be foolish to offer the rest of the games at a cheaper price to sky than to Premier sports.
Also bringing Premier sports in for this set of games, brings another TV player in for future bidding on RL games.
The fact that Virgin don't host Premier sports is neither here nor there. Virgin media don't host many channels. But if x TV programme gets their best offer to be shown on a channel not on Virgin, then it's down to Virgin to try and offer a better range.
I used to be a Virgin Customer and would go back, but just because they don't show sky atlantic does not mean I berate game of throne for being shown on SKY atlantic.
RLWC on TV is just another TV product and they need the best price for the product on offer.
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Quote ="TonyM19"It's the other way round.
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PS don't wan tto be a premium standalone on Virgin because on Sky they sell the channel directly to customers, whereas on Virgin they would need to go through them as host broadcaster and pay them a %.'"
Sorry, yeah that is right.
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PS don't wan tto be a premium standalone on Virgin because on Sky they sell the channel directly to customers, whereas on Virgin they would need to go through them as host broadcaster and pay them a %.'"
Sorry, yeah that is right.
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| Imagine if this forum was around when Wire TV were awarded the rights to the 1995 World Cup!
The most important thing is England games live on the BBC. Everything else, as harsh as it may sounds, doesn't matter if they're on Sky, Premier or Information TV with greyhound races in the middle.
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| I've got Premier Sports, best decision I ever made. I get the NRL, Championship RL, the World Cup, football, NHL, GAA and others. I'm really looking forward to it because PS have pulled out the stops to make their presentation authentic and worthy. (Good luck doing that for the average RL that demands utter perfection 100% of the f*****g time).
So to all those who are complaining, tough s**t. If you don't have PS, tough s**t. Either subscribe to it, or quit whining.
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| Quote ="WireFanatic III"I've got Premier Sports, best decision I ever made. I get the NRL, Championship RL, the World Cup, football, NHL, GAA and others. I'm really looking forward to it because PS have pulled out the stops to make their presentation authentic and worthy. (Good luck doing that for the average RL that demands utter perfection 100% of the f*****g time).
So to all those who are complaining, tough s**t. If you don't have PS, tough s**t. Either subscribe to it, or quit whining.'"
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| Quote ="Craig_UK"Sorry if this has been covered but not been on these boards all that much for a while.
Mr Wood has numerous bad decisions over the past couple of years.
We all know the problem with Premier, only available on Sky or online, which is restricting your audience from the start, only an idiot would choose this as the platform to broadcast using this company.
Before i slate him for the World Cup (other than England games) being on Premier Sports, can someone enlighten me as to why Premier were chosen? Were they the only bidders? I don't believe for one minute they outbid anyone, were they the only offer on the table?
Surely someone should have put it requirements that they have to get the channel on Virgin, Freeview, BT etc before being given the go ahead??'"
IMG media that takes care of tv rights rather than the RFL.
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| I love premier sports, Getting the web player was the best thing I ever did. Not just for the live stuff but the catch up service aswell, Which is going to be a god send for the world cup.
We have sky downstairs but it's not my house and as we have a freeview virgin box in my room i've no chance of getting it on there, So got the web player and watch on my tv through a laptop.
In this day and age the amount of people who won't be able to watch a web player through some sort of device on their tv is probably not that large. When you consider you're only taking into account the amount of people who have virgin or BT tv to begin with.
Considering there is no lengthy contacts and for £10 for the month you can watch 25? rugby league world cup matches then I think it's brilliant value.
I said this when Premier first got the NRL and State of Origin, and I still believe now that they may very well end up with Super league one day.
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| Quote ="WireFanatic III"I've got Premier Sports, best decision I ever made. I get the NRL, Championship RL, the World Cup, football, NHL, GAA and others. I'm really looking forward to it because PS have pulled out the stops to make their presentation authentic and worthy. (Good luck doing that for the average RL that demands utter perfection 100% of the f*****g time).
So to all those who are complaining, tough s**t. If you don't have PS, tough s**t. Either subscribe to it, or quit whining.'"
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| I think some people are being very disrespectful to the fledgling Premier Sports. They were given the chance with the Championship, and what a good show they have made out of it. Plus they have made the contacts with the NRL, which comp, if not for Premier, it is highly unlikely we would be able to watch.
If Premier continue to work to the standards they have set then they can only grow, and more power to their elbow.
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| Seems the RFL had no choice, the world cup has to be on the BBC for the wider audience, sky didnt want to share so they had no choice.
anyone know how long the highlight shows are on for ? id guess 30mins on an evening?
as for premier sports, those that have it say do nothing but praise them so must be good, im signed up now for the world cup for £9.99 so cant complain
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| Quote ="WireFanatic III"I've got Premier Sports, best decision I ever made. I get the NRL, Championship RL, the World Cup, football, NHL, GAA and others. I'm really looking forward to it because PS have pulled out the stops to make their presentation authentic and worthy. (Good luck doing that for the average RL that demands utter perfection 100% of the f*****g time).
So to all those who are complaining, tough s**t. If you don't have PS, tough s**t. Either subscribe to it, or quit whining.'"
Who is moaning about Premier Sports and their quality? I can't see any threads about PS being of a poor standard, so i am not sure why you are getting your knickers in a twist.
RL Forums frequenter in [i"missing the point and getting a strop on"[/i shocker.
I subscribe to PS via their player and i have enjoyed the NRL action immensely, lets hope they get more advertisers during the WC as i get a little tired of seeing those stupid meerkats
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| Quote ="Craig_UK"Who is moaning about Premier Sports and their quality?'"
You're complaining about Premier Sports. No-one has mentioned anything about the quality of it.
Quote ="Craig_UK"I can't see any threads about PS being of a poor standard, so i am not sure why you are getting your knickers in a twist.'"
That's because there are no threads about PS being of a poor standard. I mentioned about how they are pulling out all the stops for their broadcasts, but it seems, not for the first time on this topic, you have looked at a post and taken the contents of it a different way.
Quote ="Craig_UK"RL Forums frequenter in [i"missing the point and getting a strop on"[/i shocker.'"
Is this the reason why you "now remembered why i don't use this forum at all these days"? Because people disagree with what you post and point out any contradictions? Get a grip, man.
Who is getting a strop? I have PS, I can watch every single WC game live. I have no reason to have a strop. You are the one complaining as to why the RFL chose Premier Sports, and that Nigel Wood is an idiot for doing so.
Quote ="Craig_UK"I subscribe to PS via their player and i have enjoyed the NRL action immensely, lets hope they get more advertisers during the WC as i get a little tired of seeing those stupid meerkats
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So after all the complaining about the WC being on PS, about how much of an idiot Nigel Wood is for allowing this to happen, you now state that you subscribe to them via their online player.
If you have Premier Sports, then why the **** are you complaining that the World Cup is on there?
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| Quote ="WireFanatic III"I've got Premier Sports, best decision I ever made. I get the NRL, Championship RL, the World Cup, football, NHL, GAA and others. I'm really looking forward to it because PS have pulled out the stops to make their presentation authentic and worthy. (Good luck doing that for the average RL that demands utter perfection 100% of the f*****g time).
So to all those who are complaining, tough s**t. If you don't have PS, tough s**t. Either subscribe to it, or quit whining.'"
But Premier Sports isn't in HD or 3D.
You must really hate the game if you believe the modern day fan of Super League will put up with standard definition.
Premier Sports can offer as many subscription discounts as they like but they'll not be of any interest to any modern day fan of Super League and Sky's sooper dooper coverage in HD and 3D. Not unless you are brearley84 who would sell his own grandmother for a 50% discount in transaction fees
You are so pre-Super League and dated beyond all modern recognition.
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| Quote ="William Eve"But Premier Sports isn't in HD or 3D.
You must really hate the game if you believe the modern day fan of Super League will put up with standard definition.
Premier Sports can offer as many subscription discounts as they like but they'll not be of any interest to any modern day fan of Super League and Sky's sooper dooper coverage in HD and 3D. Not unless you are brearley84 who would sell his own grandmother for a 50% discount in transaction fees
You are so pre-Super League and dated beyond all modern recognition.'"
I don't think the modern RL fan puts up with anything these days, they are too busy complaining about everything.
Wait a minute, there was a "pre-Super League????" Surely not! If there is one thing that I have learnt on these forums from people, it's that Rugby League only existed since 1996.
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| Quote ="WireFanatic III"You're complaining about Premier Sports. No-one has mentioned anything about the quality of it.
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Where? Please read and find me a post where i complain about Premier Sports.
If you read correctly i have asked the question why were they chosen, which now i am aware. I also stated that it isn't great having it with a company that can't accommodate approx 4 million (according to WikiP) of VM customers. Maybe it is narrow minded of me to think it would be good for RL to try and pick up 1-2% of the VM customers. The decision to use PS was made a long time ago, I feel more should have been done to get this on as many platforms as possible, it's not like they've had a year or so to work on it?!?
Staying away from this forum is a good thing as it is full of many people like yourself that seem to spend an unhealthy amount of time talking rubbish on here, also use it as an ego boost of some kind, case in point you saying i was complaining about PS, when i wasn't, i was asking who made the decision.....and for the record Nigel Wood is an idiot for many bad decisions made in RL.
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| I have only had Premier Sports this season and have not had any problems with the quality of the transmissions. As an aside, if it was only transmitted in 3D I wouldn't want it at all.
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| Quote ="Craig_UK"Where? Please read and find me a post where i complain about Premier Sports.'"
You have vented your frustration about the World Cup being on Premier Sports. I've replied saying if you have PS, why are you complaining about the tournament being on the channel. At the beginning of the post, I did say that you were complaining about PS. Maybe I should have worded my first response to match my last response (advising you were complaining about the WC being on PS). But at the end of the day, you are obviously unhappy about the WC being on PS. My question is if you already subscribe to PS, then why?
Quote ="Craig_UK"Staying away from this forum is a good thing as it is full of many people like yourself that seem to spend an unhealthy amount of time talking rubbish on here, also use it as an ego boost of some kind'"
So is this why you had your self imposed 13 month hiatus? Some people annoy the hell out of me on here, but I'm not going to refuse to come on here just because someone disagrees with my opinion. William did before, but it's okay, I know what his agenda is anyway.
Oh, and just to advise.......you need an ego to have an ego boost.
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| Quote ="William Eve"But Premier Sports isn't in HD or 3D.
You must really hate the game if you believe the modern day fan of Super League will put up with standard definition. '"
What utter bollox. So people who pay good money out of their hard-earned to receive the Premier RL coverage, do so because they "won't put up" with it, and because they "really hate the game"!
Or they will put up with it for some games, but not others?
And every SL fan with Sky has an HD subscription, do they? Have you done a survey?
A classic even by your standards!
Also, there would be nothing that I know of that would prevent Premier upgrading their coverage to HD, if they could make a commercial case for it. As Sky show the game in HD, I kind of assume that there is one.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"What utter bollox. So people who pay good money out of their hard-earned to receive the Premier RL coverage, do so because they "won't put up" with it, and because they "really hate the game"!
Or they will put up with it for some games, but not others?
And every SL fan with Sky has an HD subscription, do they? Have you done a survey?
A classic even by your standards!
Also, there would be nothing that I know of that would prevent Premier upgrading their coverage to HD, if they could make a commercial case for it. As Sky show the game in HD, I kind of assume that there is one.'"
I think you just been had
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So to all those who are complaining, tough s**t. If you don't have PS, tough s**t. Either subscribe to it, or quit whining.'"
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| Quote ="Leaguefan"6 nations (is this STILL one of nations establishment FTV treasures?)'"
[urlhttp://www.sportspromedia.com/news/bbc_commits_uk160_million_to_renew_six_nations_rights/[/url
Quote It is believed Sky was in the market for the Six Nations rights, which is likely to have raised the annual sum the BBC bid for the 15-game annual competition. The rights package covers television, radio, online and interactive.'"
If SKY were up for it, I believe it's a free for all......and at £2,666,666 a game, they may have paid a tad too much
I am not a fan of the Premier TV deal but it is what it is...and that is probably the best way to have Live top level RL available to a wider audience than the game has had access too for a long long time. Trick is now is to convert these curious eyeballs into curious attendees at RL games in the 2014 season.
As for the long term, BT will probably got the way other pretenders to the SKY throne have gone and as big as the Union deal is at present, sticking with SKY is probably best for League in the UK for now.
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| The game definately needs a competitor to SKY to come along. Sky have a monopoly on interest for the game at the moment and know they can pay a smaller amount. Ideally someone like premier sports and a FTA provider would band together to outbid Sky. 2 games on FTA with premier sports getting those two games plus 2 others would be ideal. Only way I can see it happening is if the RFL took production in house and sold the coverage but as the game struggles to organise itself it is unlikely it will be able to manouver such a deal.
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