tbf, at this stage it seems to be 'only' a cashflow issue - no need for the last rites yet!

There must be a couple more Burgesses in a cupboard somewhere they can flog to Uncle Russ.

I hope you are right

Well having spoken by email to the Bulls general manager about it, it is just a cash flow issue with Mr Khan already putting in 800k this year to help cover short falls in income. It's just some people hear one thing and assume the worst without getting an understanding of the situation.

Breeding season was only last month. They've got some but they need fleaing and neutering before they can be sold.

So Bradford gone, Wakey just behind

Maybe the Broncos will survive the cull next year!

yeh thats what they will tell you.... being the truth is another matter... you should know that more than most fans at bradford..we have found out the hard way too at hudds recently.

no wonder your wanting more money for kopzchak from us!

Funny, it wasn't a "cash flow issue" when Robbie Hunter-Paul was all over social media last week telling us all that the money was in the bank and that the players would be paid on the 31st as usual.

So either RHP lied, or he was lied to and then repeated it to a wider audience.

That the chairman then decides to come out "in the interests of openness" and fess up to not having the cash to pay the wages on time is hardly reflective of a professionally run organisation.

They are on half sky money as a penalty for getting into financial strife. I don't have a problem with this as long as future penalties to clubs are consistent. Another factor in the late wages is they have had few home games recently.however things don't look good when you don't pay wages on time however you dress it up and whatever line of business you are in

Based on what evidence are Wakey just behind?

And this is the new, sustainable Bulls??

Just sounds like they are spending more money than they have coming in. Again.

Live cap will stop that happening... oh, wait...

Is that true? You penalise a team struggling with money by giving them less money? Sounds daft if you ask me.

Strange

There were no rules in place to deal with what happened at Bradford. Ultimately their fate was decided by a committee of the other SL chairmen, who at the time were also propping them up financially (I'm not clear on whether they got that money back).
Opinion was divided, it seems fair to say. Omar Khan wanted assurances that the licence would be transferred to the newco and this was the compromise that was reached.

So they're in SL (to the annoyance of many fans of the bigger Championship clubs, I imagine) fighting with one hand behind their backs (to the annoyance of Bulls fans).

Wakefield got less support and fewer assurances, but Crusaders collapsed to their rescue, so in the end they probably benefitted from the relative lack of help they got.

Having more CCJs than points ???

Actually Wakefield got no support & no assurances, but at least certain vulture clubs took some of their better players for paltry amounts.

After reading the Rimmer stuff it may be better for a SL club to go into administration this season rather than next.

The money bradford aren't recieving is going to the other sl clubs,,is that right?.

Is it just a case then, of the other clubs getting there money back asap which is only fair,rather than all this nonsense about bradford being unfairly penalised.

Yes


Feel free to post a list of all this money you suggest other chairmen were propping up the old Bulls with.

Even if they did, feel free to explain why they should then be free to arrange their own preferential treatment, if their money had indeed been lost "propping up" the old club.

If you were a different creditor of the old club - say, a smallish local caterer - would you think it "only fair" that the Bulls forfeited share was distributed amongst all creditors who'd lost money, or just amongst those who happened to be chairmen? I must say the fairness escapes me, but perhaps you can explain it.

We can't have a system that just reduces everything to whatever the worst run/lowest revenue club can afford. All you do is accelerate the money drain from RL. You won't get sponsors if you don't have stars in the game. If you have really dramatic squad limits ( say no more than 15 players on more than 25k ) you don't even need a cap, because even the richest club can't stuff its bench with stars and would be forced to bring youth through to have a viable group of 25 to 30 to get through a season.

Wrong. I'd be amazed if Lenegan, etc. wanted anything else than other clubs to compete hard and bring in fans and media interest. Its good for business. Stuffing failing, poorly supported clubs that the media has practically forgotten even exist, isn't.

That's kind of what I meant by 'If the weak got even weaker, then where's the challenge?'

Teams that can [icompete[/i with you, so games are not foregone conclusions, but not actually [ibeat[/i you too regularly. Or are you going to tell me you want your team to lose more often?
A few more clubs get closer to break even and the calls for a cap rise would soon come. 'To retain more top players in SL', and in no way to help the rich clubs maintain their competitive advantage and put the rest back on the breadline, obviuosly.
If we (HKR) were among the rich clubs, I'd want exactly the same. I hope I wouldn't adopt a sanctimonious 'blame the poor' attitude towards all the game's ills though.


If the big clubs get really fed-up, they should go off and form a Mega-League or some such. There's nothing to stop them.

Because they were able to create a mechanism for doing so, indirectly. Nothing about that process was fair, but that seems at least rational.

If Khan had not have gone newco and had brought you out of administration, striking a deal with the creditors, it'd have just been a points deduction.

Tbf, he got an extant squad, transfer of the licence and a stadium lease for very little cash up front. The option of starting over was there and the forfeiture of half the Sky cash was made clear from the outset, wasn't it?

Weren't Bradford one of those vulture clubs circling around Wakefield at the time? They were also circling around Salford not so very long ago.

I don’t remember Bradford, it was Catalans, Hull & strangely enough Huddersfield, the Andean Condor of vultures

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