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| Quote ="William Eve"[uCC semi final attendances V previous CC semi final attendance by club[/u
Wigan fans turnout in 2013 CC Semi Final = 6,024
Wigan fans turnout in 2012 CC Semi Final = 6,430
% decrease = -6.32%
Warrington fans turnout in 2013 CC Semi Final = 5,310
Warrington fans turnout in 2012 CC Semi Final = 8,673
% decrease = -37.78%
Hull fans turnout in 2013 CC Semi Final = 5,311
Hull fans turnout in 2008 CC Semi Final = 11,716
% decrease = -54.67%
London fans turnout in 2013 CC Semi Final = 200
London fans turnout in 1999 CC Semi Final = 1,899
% decrease = -89.47%
Oh...
Go on then...
Wouldn't wanna leave them out!!
Huddersfield fans turnout in 2012 CC Semi Final = 800
Huddersfield fans turnout in 2009 CC Semi Final = 1,638
% decrease = -51.16%'"
Huddersfield sold over 2,000 last year before walk ups, so I'm not sure where you plucked that statistic from. And Hull took a fair amount more than Warrington this year.
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| It would have been 10,622 but thankfully Hull fans don't need a drummer.
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| Make it a double header.
If they big teams (Leeds, Hulls, Saints, Wigan, Wire etc...) made the semi's, charge £15-20 a ticket, give each side a stand each, and watch the place sell.
The RFL won't do it though, too much common sense!
They did it for the Wembley internations 2 years ago, and 40k made it down, 20k could make it to Huddersfield or Wigan! The games would be watched too, because its the team youre playing in the final to be decided!
It's basic. £26 for a game on the box, when you potentially have an expensive trip to Wembley is too much, but if you get a double header its worth it at £20!
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| If the fans think £26 is to much, we as a game are sunk .
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"no venom from me at all, just offered my opinion, and to be fair the other 2 teams had to travel to theirs'"
Most teams have to travel but the average is 6k. So why did these two only manage 5k? It's pathetic that you could place the sole blame on Wigan who took 6k and make excuses for Warrington and Hull taking less.
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| 10,621 for a Challenge Cup "Qualifying Final" match. Be interesting to see what the split between the two teams was.
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| Quote ="TheElectricGlidingWarrior"Most teams have to travel but the average is 6k. So why did these two only manage 5k? It's pathetic that you could place the sole blame on Wigan who took 6k and make excuses for Warrington and Hull taking less.'"
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| Quote ="Beverley red"If the fans think £26 is to much, we as a game are sunk .'"
To watch my own team i'd pay, the issue is, i didn't care about either side yesterday, but would have gone if it was a more reasonable price, as i prefer to watch games live. Im sure lots more feel the same.
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| Quote ="CommanderShepard"10,621 for a Challenge Cup "Qualifying Final" match. Be interesting to see what the split between the two teams was.'"
Hull appeared to have marginally more fans there, perhaps just under 6000. Personally I think the kick off time affected the gate. 6 pm on a Sunday is hardly the optimum time slot .
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| You know what I couldn't care less if it didn't look good on TV to people watching the game for the first time. The atmosphere yesterday sounded like it was a sell out at times and it is a day I will always remember.
Give me 10,000 diehards over 25,000 bandwagoners any day of the week.
Its about time in Rugby League we started to concentrate on doing things on the pitch rather then worry about what is going on off it. The atmosphere at Wembley will be nowhere near that of say a League game between Hull and Wigan because of the neutrals or bandwagoners that both clubs will bring.
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| Quote ="pmarrow"You know what I couldn't care less if it didn't look good on TV to people watching the game for the first time. The atmosphere yesterday sounded like it was a sell out at times and it is a day I will always remember.
Give me 10,000 diehards over 25,000 bandwagoners any day of the week.
Its about time in Rugby League we started to concentrate on doing things on the pitch rather then worry about what is going on off it. The atmosphere at Wembley will be nowhere near that of say a League game between Hull and Wigan because of the neutrals or bandwagoners that both clubs will bring.'"
Completely agree! best atmosphere for the Hull game for ages, and largely because we left the apathetic and/or miserable fans at home!
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| Quote ="William Eve"[uCC semi final attendances V previous CC semi final attendance by club[/u
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Don’t be getting distracted with all this CC malarkey, you haven’t updated the SL stats showing Wakefield’s relentless march up the league .
I think that a lot of fans of the top few clubs take too many matches as a gimmie, all they think they need to do is, buy a season ticket, one ticket for Wembley & one for Old Trafford.
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| Quote ="TheElectricGlidingWarrior"[u[iMost teams have to travel[/i[/u but the average is 6k. So why did these two only manage 5k? It's pathetic that you could place the sole blame on Wigan who took 6k and make excuses for Warrington and Hull taking less.'"
Warrington travelled 40 miles
Hull travelled 71 miles
Wigan travelled 8 miles and were still within their own borough.
It rather begs the question that if the two clubs who travelled the greatest distance averaged 6,000 why on earth couldn't the alleged biggest name in Rugby League persuade more than that number to walk down the road to support them.
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"Warrington travelled 40 miles
Hull travelled 71 miles
Wigan travelled 8 miles and were still within their own borough.
It rather begs the question that if the two clubs who travelled the greatest distance averaged 6,000 why on earth couldn't the alleged biggest name in Rugby League persuade more than that number to walk down the road to support them.'"
They averaged 5k, 1k less than Wigan. Anything else at the bottom of that barrel of yours?
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| Wigans fans are fatter though.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"London had 200 there yesterday?
I saw one fan and 2 mascots.'"
You obviously weren't looking very hard, but then again, if it suits your agenda to run down those that bothered to trawl 200+ miles with the very likely result that we saw, then fair enough.
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| Quote ="TheElectricGlidingWarrior"They averaged 5k, 1k less than Wigan. Anything else at the bottom of that barrel of yours?'"
Well as I don't know what the split for yesterday was I could make an educated guess that one of the teams were at or very close to 6000. You still haven't justified your low attendance for what was effectively a home game.
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| We all know its the Giants fault the crowd was low, lets look at the key reasons.
1. Warrington charged £5 for coach travel for the game on Sunday, outrageous!
2. People had to pay for a game £20 is a joke
3. The game was on TV, so why would you go. I mean look at old Trafford when Man UTD play and the game is on sky, the place is practically empty.
So to conclude, it is the fault of people of Huddersfield that two of the biggest clubs in the country could not even half fill a stadium that that the giants play in! Congratulations on filling a ground the size of wakefields (no disrespect to wakey).
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"Well as I don't know what the split for yesterday was I could make an educated guess that one of the teams were at or very close to 6000. You still haven't justified your low attendance for what was effectively a home game.'"
Either 6k is low or it isn't mate, make your mind up.
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| Quote ="TheElectricGlidingWarrior"Was it Warrington, Hull, or both teams that couldn't manage to bring more supporters to a Challenge Cup semi than Wigan's supposedly paltry 6,000?'"
They only had 100 more for the home game the round before.
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| Quote ="TheElectricGlidingWarrior"Either 6k is low or it isn't mate, make your mind up.'"
You're right. 6000 for a home game is apalling. Full marks to those teams who travelled.
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"You're right. 6000 for a home game is apalling. Full marks to those teams who travelled.'"
Ha ha, 6k is bad when it's Wigan, good when it's Hull.
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| Quote ="PC Plum"You obviously weren't looking very hard, but then again, if it suits your agenda to run down those that bothered to trawl 200+ miles with the very likely result that we saw, then fair enough.'"
I looked but I didn't see. If there was 200 Broncos fans in the ground I didn't see them. Like I say I saw one bloke in a London shirt all day. I'm guessing there were others I didn't see but I'd be surprised if there was more then 50.
As for the ones that did go fair play to them. It's not easy going all that way when you know your more then likely going to be on the end of the result. I've done it myself plenty, watching us in our darker days but more so watching Wigan Athletic. I also made a 200+ mile trip down to London in May expecting to get a hammering....turned out surprisingly well that one!
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| Quote ="TheElectricGlidingWarrior"Ha ha, 6k is bad when it's Wigan, good when it's Hull.'"
Do you honestly not see the difference between a team effectively playing at home and one travelling 70 miles.
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"Do you honestly not see the difference between a team effectively playing at home and one travelling 70 miles.'"
6k v [uLondon[/u
5-6k v [uWarrington[/u
Is distance the only mitigating factor in your book? If we should have taken more due to the distance, you should surely have taken more due to the opposition. Ateotd Wigan have taken around 6k to semis, the average for a SL side in a semi, whether its 8 miles away v London (Leigh), 12 miles away v Saints (Warrington), or 40 miles away v Leeds (Huddersfield). At the very least, our numbers of fans don't drop off the further away the game is, nor do they drop off depending on who we play. Can you say the same?
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