Agreed. If L'Estrange had given him a smack I wouldn't have complained as McGuire was getting worked up for some reason

To be fair to Clarke he didn't wish a career ending injury on him, that was done by a few morons on the Wigan board

I think someone saved some of the more unsavoury comments as their signature just to remind the authors what lowlifes they are! Another VT thread specifically for one of our players - someone's worried!

Some of the scumbag comments:










Also there are more classless comments like this one


But it's important to note there were plenty of Wigan fans who didn't say such rubbish and were perfectly reasonable in their comments

The issue with Clarke's comments on the McGuire injury was his implication in his Sky Sports column that Danny in some way "deserved" an injury that required a knee reconstruction, simply for committing a professional foul against his beloved Wigan.

Coming from someone who had his own career ended prematurely by injury, the hypocrisy of it was sickening.

Clarke was referring to the irony of the situation and it was ironic. He never at any stage even suggested that DM deserved the injury.

it was a classless remark, a pretty horrible idea, and was used by some people to say some pretty awful things.

The game didnt need it, the game was better than it, and it went against everything the game was about. The game doesnt need people like that.

For some reason McGuire was wound up & gave away some silly pens, against a top team Leeds would have been punished.

Agreed. Same goes for Peacock.

You have got to be joking.L'Estrange is frightened of his own shadow on the evidence I've seen.

We don't have one, how could we a humble village community share in the same light of academia that spews forth from that metropolis of learning and reason that is Leeds. Hell boy we spends most of our time being anti-semitic small town luddites.

We's also only has one good eye a piece which makes the darn thing look like an attempted eye gouge when a proper two eyed gent like your good self can clearly see it wasn't. My most humblest apologies.

I so wish I was like you, boss.



(he won't get it)

wow, aren't you a twitchy wee thing, cute.

This is the second thread on which you've directed abuse at me, I'd kindly ask you to stop. If you have anything to contribute go ahead, it'd be far more welcome than just coming on and calling people pillocks.

Clarke's rugby gods comment was a disgrace if it was football he would have never commentated again and rightly so.

Clarke's rugby gods comment was a disgrace if it was football he would have never commentated again and rightly so.

Correct.

Still makes me laugh, Leeds fans all huffily precious and self-righteous about that McGuire injury and the subsequent reaction. If he hadn't illegally dragged Carmont down off the ball, he wouldn't have suffered the injury. He caused it, no-one else, and he caused it through an illegal act at a crucial moment one might deem cheating.

I won't say he deserved the injury but I'm certainly not going to feel much sympathy for someone who brings an injury on themselves in that manner. Make of that what you will but seriously, get the f*ck over it and stop whingeing.

I was there that night, sat right over the incident in question. The atmosphere was explosive, the stakes were high and it was as tense a game as I can remember. When Wigan made that break at the end not only did McGuire pull down Carmont illegally, Richards was tackled after he kicked on, also illegally. If Carmont had still been in support the result Richards could have passed inside for the match-winning try. Those events in that context - are you surprised some Wigan fans went a little mental?

As for McGuire in general, great player but he has a real grub side to his game that isn't often acknowledged but it showed on Friday. He's such a talented player he doesn't need it and it lets him down.

I saved a few in mine!

Illegal play goes on in every game - didn't see many Wigan fans complaining when the likes of Lima used the cannonball to deliberately injure fellow professionals - yet McGuire was seen as some villain - typical Wigan fans.

Didn't see you up in arms when you beat Leeds in CC final through two blatant reefing errors, but you complained plenty in the semi when the decisions went the other way!!

Carmont wouldn't have scored. If Carmont hadn't been so slow then McGuire wouldn't have stood on his heel which led to his next step being the one that hyper extended his knee, and in turn caused him to fall bringing Carmont down......with 60m to go and McGuire's pace back then he easily would've kept up to him had his stride pattern not gotten interrupted......other defenders would've gotten to him too.

The slow motion reply is quite clear, the only problem is people only watched McGuire's hands and not his feet.

It probably wasn't even as bad as Carmont's tackle on the tryline to stop Burrow in last years playoffs.....but given the timing on the clock and that the offending team won it had people making it out to be worst than it was.

Wigan of course, commited no fouls and gave away no penalties in that match.

It would be funny if it wasn’t such a sick concept. Considering Wigans history with Mike Gregory as well, how anyone could look at what our games players do for our entertainment and be anything other than thankful to them I don’t know. As I say, it just seems a very sick concept.

I still find it precious, the way Wigan fans jump to the defence of former club legend Phil Clarke to defend his comments.

If Clarke hadn't written those comments on his Sky Sports website, after having ample time pre-game to sit down and think about what he really wanted to say before doing so, then he wouldn't have got the vitriolic response he did.

What he said was clear, classless and completely lacking in irony given the circumstances in which his own playing career ended. He's an educated man, who did something in the heat of the moment which was out of character in order to generate some controversy for his employers.

See what I did there, Cronus?

And there it is, point entirely proven, the desperate scramble to occupy the high moral ground and defend their grubby little cherub.



Poor McGuire, injured himself by cheating. Wasn't nice but it was his own fault. Leeds fans only further prove the point by swarming in with their over-keen protestations and directing their vitriol at someone (anyone) else instead of acknowledging that he did, in fact, cheat, and injured himself in the process.

I couldn't give a shiny sh*t what Clarke said afterwards. What was funny, however, was the massive overreaction and continued bile spewed whenever anyone mentions the incident. You lot doth protest waaaaay to much. He's not the Messiah, he's a grubby Leeds half-back with anger management issues.

Not surprising though, considering some Leeds players even went public slagging off Leuluai and Riddell for yelling at McGuire as he lay on the floor (when no-one knew he was badly injured). Some even hinted Tommy had inflicted the injury! However, that veteran professional players were so angered by his blatant illegal act speaks volumes - he cheated and everyone knew it, yet Leeds players were the ones crawling to the press complaining about him being shouted at! Awww, poor lad, did the big men say nasty words?

ps. Carmont slow? Take it you didn't see the try he scored against St George a few months later?

Trolling or not, you lack class. Maybe it’s a small town thing.