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| The extra man is clearly just a cynical attempt by Dr K. to inflate the attendance figures.
Something has to be done to make up for the thousands who attend the hospitality and don't contribute to the Reds numbers
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| Quote ="TheButcher"Some straw grasping going on here off Cas fans. It's a wrap on the knuckles for the fourth official or whoever controls the ins and outs of players during the match.
To call for a 2 point deduction or a replay would be penalizing Salford for something they have no control over. Hardly fair. I understand why it would miff some fans, but all it is is a mistake by an official. Get over it.'"
So the Salford player thought we had gone to a 14 game code when his team mate didn't come off then?
I assume Nobby though one of his subs was wearing the invisible suit as well.
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| Quote ="TheButcher"Some straw grasping going on here off Cas fans. It's a wrap on the knuckles for the fourth official or whoever controls the ins and outs of players during the match.
To call for a 2 point deduction or a replay would be penalizing Salford for something they have no control over. Hardly fair. I understand why it would miff some fans, but all it is is a mistake by an official. Get over it.'"
Are you serious.
Salford have no control on how many of their players are on the pitch ?
Dock 'em 2 points !
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| We will take the fine thanks! Pass go collect £200 and move onto Mayfair, obviously we are the Iron!
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| Quote ="TheButcher"....would be penalizing Salford for something they have no control over. ....'"
You think? They have "no control" over how many of their players are on the pitch?
Wow. It must be some amazing co-incidence of all time then that, by pure uncontrolled chance, they've managed to keep it to exactly 13 this last century or so.
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| Have cas commented on this?
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| All the officials involved in that game should be brought in and given a bollocking; aside from this incident, the whole game was woefully managed, not least the Tansey cop-out and the Cas players failing to get back onside for the drop-out - that happened directly in front of Alibert and his touch judge, neither of whom saw fit to deal with it.
I'm not one to constantly bag the officials, but this one was beyond the pale.
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| As mentioned the interchanges are monitored by an official on the sideline not the ref, so can't really blame Alibert for that. But he can be blamed for bottling the Tansey decision. Should have been a straight red. So in a way Salford having 14 men on sort of evened it up for the fact Cas should have had 12.
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| Bit strange that cas waited till today to lodge a complaint. Almost like they knew nothing about it till they saw this thread....
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| I seem to remember there being a brief moment a few years ago when Leigh had 14 men on the pitch though it was only as they passed each other near the side line, I think they may have been fined.
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| Quote ="mat"Bit strange that cas waited till today to lodge a complaint. Almost like they knew nothing about it till they saw this thread....'"
You do realise it was announced early this morning that they were complaining. Before this thread was even posted.....
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| Quote ="Fully"You do realise it was announced early this morning that they were complaining. Before this thread was even posted.....'"
An individual with a Castleford connection saw this at the time and he mentioned it to me immediately after the game.
The fact that it wasn't mentioned by anyone else,in particular Danny Orr,after the game on the Saturday evening does seem to suggest that not only the match officials were oblivious to what had occurred.
It is also the case that the Castleford directors were directly behind the individual who saw what had occurred.
I suspect your club received the information from the media.
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| Loving the mock outrage over this. #PrayforCas
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| Quote ="Karlos13"Loving the mock outrage over this. #PrayforCas'"
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| Quote ="Stanley30"But we have got a lot of money tho haven't we
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Yep...but someone needs to point out to the good Dr that he can't "buy" an extra player on the pitch with it!
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Yep...but someone needs to point out to the good Dr that he can't "buy" an extra player on the pitch with it!
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Got a real bee in your bonnet about Koukash eh?
You need to put down your trouser plumper and relax a little...
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| Sm to remember I think a Halifax, well Yorkshire team anyway, water carrier involved in a tackle when Warrington attacking. It's rare.... Yorkshire = cheats
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| Quote ="TrentBarrett"Can you tell roughly how long they had the 14 men on the pitch for?'"
Salford played 35 seconds ( 3 sets ) with a player who shouldn't have been on the field .( between 76.33- 77.0icon_cool.gif
Castleford Played 19 minutes with a player who shouldn't have been on the field, who was guilty of denying Salford a try with an dangerous challenge and contributed to breaks that resulted in two further Castleford Tries afterwards. and Castleford have put in an official complaint ..
Tansey put in an early guilty plea for a 1 match ban .
All in all a complete mess .
As mentioned there's precident, Saints in 2006 were fined £100 for a similar incident , but I don't know at what stage of the game , or how close the result was.
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| Tricky one for the RFL. The precedents don't suggest much of a penalty, but looking at that photo, the extra man was being utilised in defence quite significantly at a crucial point in the game. Would Cas have found a gap in those 3 tackles if there had been just 13 on? Tricky.
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| FWIW, the club are the ones that may be in trouble, not the interchange official.
As a trainer, I have to let the IC official know we are going to make a change, the player is given a card by us with the number of his interchange. The player walks down the sideline with the IC official and when the player coming off is seen by the IC to be off the pitch he will take the card from the ongoing player and hold it up to the crowd.
I cannot understand how a player got on unless the club's sideline staff did not inform the IC official.
In the NRL, you can acutally be fined if you throw the card at the IC official and also, you MUST put it in their hand. I've seen players called back off the pitch to be told to picked up a dropped card and place it in their hand.
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| Quote ="TheButcher"Got a real bee in your bonnet about Koukash eh?
You need to put down your trouser plumper and relax a little...
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| Quote ="gutterfax"Quote ="TheButcher"Got a real bee in your bonnet about Koukash eh?
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" was a clue to me making a tongue in cheek comment.I have repeatedly said that Salford have my best wishes for the future, but some of the predictions of "world domination" coming from sections of your support on here are well worth reeling in with some realism.'"
Never! we have dealt with too much realism over the years I demand satisfaction! Let us play with 14 men, let us smash the salary cap. World domination will be ours!! Mwahahahhahbannahahaha.
Calm down dear its all a bit of fun!
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Quote ="mat"Bit strange that cas waited till today to lodge a complaint. Almost like they knew nothing about it till they saw this thread....'"
they actually reported it to the match commissioner straight after the game
and Salford have now been charged
www.superleaguefans.com/salford- ... #fd4f80ff4
we shall just have to wait and see the outcome
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they actually reported it to the match commissioner straight after the game
and Salford have now been charged
www.superleaguefans.com/salford- ... #fd4f80ff4
we shall just have to wait and see the outcome
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[url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_league/5062744.stmSaints fined over 14-men incident[/url
Quote 08 Jun 06 | Super League -An RFL investigation found that the club fielded the extra player for no longer than 40 seconds.
They added that there were mitigating circumstances and that St Helens had sought to rectify the situation.
The Knowsley Road club admitted the breach of rules and has taken steps to avoid any similar incidents in the future
St Helens coach Daniel Anderson claimed that the blame for the mix-up lay with the interchange official, rather than any of his coaching team.
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Quote 08 Jun 06 | Super League -An RFL investigation found that the club fielded the extra player for no longer than 40 seconds.
They added that there were mitigating circumstances and that St Helens had sought to rectify the situation.
The Knowsley Road club admitted the breach of rules and has taken steps to avoid any similar incidents in the future
St Helens coach Daniel Anderson claimed that the blame for the mix-up lay with the interchange official, rather than any of his coaching team.
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