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| The most badly refereed playoff game this season. Maguire should have been given 10 mins at the very least. Hall should possible have got the same for his cowardly push at Dureau's back. The less said about Peacock's offside arm grab the better. And will someone please remind Sinfield that being an NFL blocker every time someone puts a bomb up is not aloud?
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Love how the Wigan fans are still insisting all contact with the head is the same. Mcguire was silly, but not in any way, shape or form similar or on a level with Mcilorum's. Fakir's aswell. Both were mistimed swings at falling players, Mcilorums was a late, high, swing at a static player, if you cant tell the difference between them then you are beyond help and we would be best to leave you festering in your bitterness.'"
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"Leeds fan.'"
As i said, if you cant tell the difference, i cant help you. Its you that suffers in you're bitterness though so, you're welcome to it.
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| Quote ="TheElectricGlidingWarrior"The most badly refereed playoff game this season. Maguire should have been given 10 mins at the very least. Hall should possible have got the same for his cowardly push at Dureau's back. The less said about Peacock's offside arm grab the better. And will someone please remind Sinfield that being an NFL blocker every time someone puts a bomb up is not aloud?'"
only notice one teams fouls then? bitter, very bitter
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| Please don't tell me I've just read a Wigan fan saying the McGuire incident was the same as mcalorrum. Don't be daft, McGuire will get a one game ban, it was a swinging arm not late and on a player tgat was falling, the Fakir on burrows was just as bad if not worse. Anyway what a great game jury what playoffs are about, I'm sick of moaning RL supporters you do the game a dis service.
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| Quote ="TheElectricGlidingWarrior"The most badly refereed playoff game this season. Maguire should have been given 10 mins at the very least. Hall should possible have got the same for his cowardly push at Dureau's back. The less said about Peacock's offside arm grab the better. And will someone please remind Sinfield that being an NFL blocker every time someone puts a bomb up is not aloud?'"
I don't mind the refs errors being pointed out, but what a surprise a Wigan fan ONLY mentions the ones that go against Catalan. Just makes you sound bitter and biased. Infact you are bitter and biased.
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| Quote ="TheElectricGlidingWarrior"The most badly refereed playoff game this season. Maguire should have been given 10 mins at the very least. Hall should possible have got the same for his cowardly push at Dureau's back. The less said about Peacock's offside arm grab the better. And will someone please remind Sinfield that being an NFL blocker every time someone puts a bomb up is not aloud?'"
If anyone should have got 10 in that, it should have been Dureau for going down easier than Beeston's finest, Even Ferriol looked disgusted with him
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| Quote ="Saddened!"He should get picked up by the review panel one would think. But it's unlikely to result in any ban because he's got such a great disciplinary record, he's not some horrible little runt of a man like McIllorum.'"
Great record, don't you remember the Rugby Gods?
And McIllorum, whilst your campaign of anti-Wigan rumbles on you should really look at his record, maybe it's best not to let the facts get in the way of a good witch hunt?
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| rugby gods? then when most of wigan were wishing he would never play again? disgusting. i would never wish injury never mind a career ending one on anyone
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"As i said, if you cant tell the difference, i cant help you. Its you that suffers in you're bitterness though so, you're welcome to it.'"
I didn't say it was the same. McGuire's and Fakir's challenges (high tackle and raised elbow) were all red card offences if you ask me. It's the inconsistency by the SAME REFEREES that is wrong.
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| The Fakir incident was the worst of the match, he should've been off. McGuire should be looking at a 1 match ban, he had more than enough time to pull out of that one with a falling player, otherwise not much in it. I want him to be banned for the sake of consistency, but I'm a bit upset he shouldn't be coming to Wigan. Would love for us to knock Leeds out at full strength, but they shouldn't be after that shot.
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"I didn't say it was the same. McGuire's and Fakir's challenges (high tackle and raised elbow) were all red card offences if you ask me. It's the inconsistency by the SAME REFEREES that is wrong.'"
So how is that inconsistency. Thats not inconsistency, its just referees thinking one offence is a red card, two different ones arent and you disagreeing.
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| If you want a laugh head over to the Wigan forum, I've never read such a load if paranoid nonsense.
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"So how is that inconsistency. Thats not inconsistency, its just referees thinking one offence is a red card, two different ones arent and you disagreeing.'"
It's not a matter of opinion. There is a rule book y'know.
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| Methinks that might be the last we see of Ben Thaler in these playoffs. Leeds were the better side on the night though so deserved to progress.
The odds of us seeing another Leeds Saints GF grow shorter every week, how monotonous.
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"It's not a matter of opinion. There is a rule book y'know.'"
Clearly it is a matter of opinion or we wouldnt have referees but a computer up in the stands. The rules are there to be interpreted, you interpret them different from the referee in these two incidents.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Me thinks Wigan fans are a weeny bit scared of the mighty Rhinos.'"
And the Saints fans are a teeny weeny bit afraid of whomever gets to the final with Saints (if they get there).
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| Quote ="Nothus"Methinks that might be the last we see of Ben Thaler in these playoffs. Leeds were the better side on the night though so deserved to progress.
The odds of us seeing another Leeds Saints GF grow shorter every week, how monotonous.'"
Someone else should turn up to the party then. FWIW I think Wigan and Warrington will this year.
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| Quote ="christopher"If you want a laugh head over to the Wigan forum, I've never read such a load if paranoid nonsense.'"
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Clearly it is a matter of opinion or we wouldnt have referees but a computer up in the stands. The rules are there to be interpreted, you interpret them different from the referee in these two incidents.'"
If McGuire and Fakir receive bans from the disciplinary panel, does that mean the officials on the field got it wrong?
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Love how the Wigan fans are still insisting all contact with the head is the same. Mcguire was silly, but not in any way, shape or form similar or on a level with Mcilorum's. Fakir's aswell. Both were mistimed swings at falling players, Mcilorums was a late, high, swing at a static player, if you cant tell the difference between them then you are beyond help and we would be best to leave you festering in your bitterness.'"
If you consider the inconsistency around the issue it's understandable, in the same game that MM got sent off Perry got away with dropping on Lima with forearm but didn't "promote" the arm - yes, from standing up to dropping on someone's head without promoting the arm?? One punch for Wigan = sending off, but for others not so much.
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| Quote ="tad rhino"rugby gods? then when most of wigan were wishing he would never play again? disgusting. i would never wish injury never mind a career ending one on anyone'"
Don't be silly. McG attempted a rather dirty attack and got hurt himself. To say that McG has a great record is a fallacy looking at his playing style, he gets away with a lot.
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"If McGuire and Fakir receive bans from the disciplinary panel, does that mean the officials on the field got it wrong?'"
Not necessarily. If the referee was unsighted then on-report was the correct decision, thats what it is there for.
As it is I dont think either will be banned, both looked lazy rather than malicious.
If they do get banned however, ill just accept that as a difference of opinion between me and the disciplinary panel, rather than some crazy conspiracy where the RFL are trying to engineer a Leeds GF win by banning Mike bloody Mcilorum.
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"If McGuire and Fakir receive bans from the disciplinary panel, does that mean the officials on the field got it wrong?'"
no. it could be they didn't get a great look at them. although in this case there was a clear view for both.
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"If McGuire and Fakir receive bans from the disciplinary panel, does that mean the officials on the field got it wrong?'"
And if they don't does that mean they got it right? I doubt you'd see it that way.
Need to calm down, inconsistencies and chance only have meaning when you make stories up to rationalise randomness. The ref's performance was shoddy and more money needs to go into it quite frankly, but we all knew this before.
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