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| Quote ="very red robin"JB are you in Perth? I fly into perth at the end of august, pirate ahoy for this pommie! I think changing the logo and name is a great idea and will bring interest from outside of the usual WA reds fanbase.'"
Yes mate, you coming to live or visit?
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| Why exactly would the expansion be delayed?
I can't understand the logic behind this. The NRL needs to maximise the product.
There is long term potential for two top flight divisions.
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| Quote ="Odem"Why exactly would the expansion be delayed?
I can't understand the logic behind this. The NRL needs to maximise the product.
There is long term potential for two top flight divisions.'"
Why rush? What's a year or two when these clubs are going to be around for 50+ years?
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| $'s. Every year without a 9th game to sell is $30-40mill a year in lost income. Gallop should have had enough confidence in the game in 2011 to announce expansion then, if he had we might not be getting the estimated $200mill less than AFL in the next TV deal that is predicted.
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| Aside form the great cap and ball available to crew members the WC Pirates have just released the first merchandise for the club. Great looking Tshirt and $5 discount of you are a crew member. Available from the website next week. $25 members, $30 non members.
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| Did the expansion get put back from 2013? Or did I imagine that?
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| There was an opportunity in 2011 to call for expansion bids and announce expansion to commence in 2013 at start of new TV deal. Gallop and the NRL board decided to do nothing so the opportunity was lost and we have been speculating since if and when it will happen. Sadly the inaction and lack of confidence in our great game by Gallop means we will miss out on up to $150-200mill in income on the TV deal by not having a 9th game to sell with two new teams in desirable locations.
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| Here is the jist as it stands.
TV Deal sorted around Sept. Submissions for expansion in late aug. If TV money allows for expansion, then spot(s) given for 2014 season.
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| 2015 season though there is now talk of staggering entry so one team comes in 2015 and one in 2016, don;t see any logic to it.
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HAte to say I told you so!
Potential new franchises will soon get an answer on NRL expansion - but it's unlikely to be the one they're hoping to hear. Sin Bin has been told the ARLC is likely to make a definitive call on whether to expand in late August, around the time the television rights deal has been thrashed out. Should they decide to increase the number of teams, prospective franchises will be given four or five months to put in bids with a view to NRL entry in 2015. However, it's becoming increasingly likely the status quo will remain and they will have to wait longer still. While the broadcasters are always looking for more quality content, it's believed - at least in initial discussions - their appetite for more games isn't matched by a dollar commitment that would make new clubs feasible. The commission is also mindful that most existing clubs are running at a loss and extra teams would only further dilute the playing talent.
Read more: www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... z20eyQgCBC
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HAte to say I told you so!
Potential new franchises will soon get an answer on NRL expansion - but it's unlikely to be the one they're hoping to hear. Sin Bin has been told the ARLC is likely to make a definitive call on whether to expand in late August, around the time the television rights deal has been thrashed out. Should they decide to increase the number of teams, prospective franchises will be given four or five months to put in bids with a view to NRL entry in 2015. However, it's becoming increasingly likely the status quo will remain and they will have to wait longer still. While the broadcasters are always looking for more quality content, it's believed - at least in initial discussions - their appetite for more games isn't matched by a dollar commitment that would make new clubs feasible. The commission is also mindful that most existing clubs are running at a loss and extra teams would only further dilute the playing talent.
Read more: www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... z20eyQgCBC
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The QT has been told expansion is still an option, but no final decision has been made.
"There has been no change to the position on expansion," an NRL spokesman told the QT.
"It is a strategic consideration for the game and one that will be considered as part of the commission's strategic planning process. We've talked about the fact that plan will be released later in the year and that remains the case."
Western Corridor NRL bid boss Steve Johnson said his team would continue with its plans.
He said the current broadcast rights holders held the key to expansion, and if Channel Nine and Fox Sports had bid for an extra game in the upcoming TV rights deal, then there would be extra teams.
Channel Nine and Fox Sports have made their secret bids for broadcast rights and when they are opened in early August it will become apparent whether they have put in extra funds for an expanded competition.
Heavyweights at Channel Nine have made it clear they were prepared to pay an extra $100 million over five years for an expanded game with an extra team playing out of Suncorp Stadium.
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The QT has been told expansion is still an option, but no final decision has been made.
"There has been no change to the position on expansion," an NRL spokesman told the QT.
"It is a strategic consideration for the game and one that will be considered as part of the commission's strategic planning process. We've talked about the fact that plan will be released later in the year and that remains the case."
Western Corridor NRL bid boss Steve Johnson said his team would continue with its plans.
He said the current broadcast rights holders held the key to expansion, and if Channel Nine and Fox Sports had bid for an extra game in the upcoming TV rights deal, then there would be extra teams.
Channel Nine and Fox Sports have made their secret bids for broadcast rights and when they are opened in early August it will become apparent whether they have put in extra funds for an expanded competition.
Heavyweights at Channel Nine have made it clear they were prepared to pay an extra $100 million over five years for an expanded game with an extra team playing out of Suncorp Stadium.
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Pirates confident west will be won
MANY sports fans in Perth haven't even heard of Darren Lockyer but one of the architects of a western bid for an NRL team insists they will catch on quickly.
And you get the feeling the West Coast Pirates' bid boss John Sackson thinks it is nothing short of a sporting disgrace there is not a national league presence in the western frontier.
"It is really hard to swallow to be honest. People in Perth are just like those in Melbourne; they absolutely love their sport,'' Sackson says.
"The people of Western Australia just need a rugby league team to believe in.''
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Pirates confident west will be won
MANY sports fans in Perth haven't even heard of Darren Lockyer but one of the architects of a western bid for an NRL team insists they will catch on quickly.
And you get the feeling the West Coast Pirates' bid boss John Sackson thinks it is nothing short of a sporting disgrace there is not a national league presence in the western frontier.
"It is really hard to swallow to be honest. People in Perth are just like those in Melbourne; they absolutely love their sport,'' Sackson says.
"The people of Western Australia just need a rugby league team to believe in.''
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Here’s what comes to mind when I think of expansion. Strength, junior base, revenue and potential for growth. In my eyes, to truly move rugby league forward and grow the comp into a national brand, Perth needs to be given a team. It just makes sense. Rugby league was progressing nicely in Western Australia when the Reds were in town from 1995-97. They were getting plenty of bums on seats and grassroots footy was being cultivated nicely.
But when the Super League war ended in ’97 and the two competitions became one, the Reds were sacrificed along with ARL franchise South Queensland Crushers. I think it shows a fair bit of ticker and determination to come back fifteen years later. Allowing WA to have a team also makes sense for TV, with the time difference meaning games can be shown live. Much better than some idiot sending you a text with the result, don’t you think? Also, the WARL was established in 1948, meaning it’s just a year younger than famous clubs like defending premiers Manly and the Parramatta Eels.
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Here’s what comes to mind when I think of expansion. Strength, junior base, revenue and potential for growth. In my eyes, to truly move rugby league forward and grow the comp into a national brand, Perth needs to be given a team. It just makes sense. Rugby league was progressing nicely in Western Australia when the Reds were in town from 1995-97. They were getting plenty of bums on seats and grassroots footy was being cultivated nicely.
But when the Super League war ended in ’97 and the two competitions became one, the Reds were sacrificed along with ARL franchise South Queensland Crushers. I think it shows a fair bit of ticker and determination to come back fifteen years later. Allowing WA to have a team also makes sense for TV, with the time difference meaning games can be shown live. Much better than some idiot sending you a text with the result, don’t you think? Also, the WARL was established in 1948, meaning it’s just a year younger than famous clubs like defending premiers Manly and the Parramatta Eels.
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NRL Players Back Perth Expansion
National Rugby League players are overwhelmingly in support of expansion and most favour the addition of a Perth based team according to the annual Rugby League Week magazine’s Players’ Poll.
Along with questions about on field issues, the magazine polled players on their attitudes towards expansion and the performance of the Independent Commission.
Of 100 players polled 88 said they backed expansion. Those who voted yes were allowed to nominate one or two candidates. A Perth franchise received 66 votes, with Brisbane Bombers 33, Central Coast NSW 22 and 11 votes for others including Central Queensland, PNG, and second New Zealand based franchise.
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NRL Players Back Perth Expansion
National Rugby League players are overwhelmingly in support of expansion and most favour the addition of a Perth based team according to the annual Rugby League Week magazine’s Players’ Poll.
Along with questions about on field issues, the magazine polled players on their attitudes towards expansion and the performance of the Independent Commission.
Of 100 players polled 88 said they backed expansion. Those who voted yes were allowed to nominate one or two candidates. A Perth franchise received 66 votes, with Brisbane Bombers 33, Central Coast NSW 22 and 11 votes for others including Central Queensland, PNG, and second New Zealand based franchise.
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| A few of my mates are other there at the moment for the game (Manly vs Warriors) and loving it.
Apparently had a great time at Little Creatures Brewery yesterday and are warming up for the game already.
They want to do this yearly!!!
So you've won the support of Manly fans
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| Good to hear. 16,000 tickets sold, weather good so should be a decent crowd.
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| 20,095 at tonight's game in Perth.
Discussion over, admit the West Coast Pirates now!
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NRL recognise potential of WA to an expanded NRL:
"West Australian rugby league is a growth market for the game and we'll continue to invest in it," Mattiske said.
"Saturday's game was a strong sign that we need to continue the focus in terms of television coverage and bringing major rugby league events to Perth.
"Perth is certainly in the frame for major events."
The ARLC expects to announce a new television deal within months that could lead to a further two teams in the 2015 competition.
"The ARL Commission is working through a five-year strategic plan aligned to the broadcast negotiations. At the conclusion we will be able to make an indication in terms of the games expansion," Mattiske said.
"We've been in meetings with the WA Rugby League and clearly communicating that the WA market is important and we are continuing to focus on that.
"They need to allow our planning and negotiations to progress."
WARL chairman Richard Campbell said Saturday's match had been a great advertisement for the game and was pleased with the discussions with Mattiske.
"The turnout demonstrated the support for rugby league in WA," Campbell said.
"The commission is confident that WA rugby league is strong and happy with the structure that we have in place.
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NRL recognise potential of WA to an expanded NRL:
"West Australian rugby league is a growth market for the game and we'll continue to invest in it," Mattiske said.
"Saturday's game was a strong sign that we need to continue the focus in terms of television coverage and bringing major rugby league events to Perth.
"Perth is certainly in the frame for major events."
The ARLC expects to announce a new television deal within months that could lead to a further two teams in the 2015 competition.
"The ARL Commission is working through a five-year strategic plan aligned to the broadcast negotiations. At the conclusion we will be able to make an indication in terms of the games expansion," Mattiske said.
"We've been in meetings with the WA Rugby League and clearly communicating that the WA market is important and we are continuing to focus on that.
"They need to allow our planning and negotiations to progress."
WARL chairman Richard Campbell said Saturday's match had been a great advertisement for the game and was pleased with the discussions with Mattiske.
"The turnout demonstrated the support for rugby league in WA," Campbell said.
"The commission is confident that WA rugby league is strong and happy with the structure that we have in place.
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How many fan's travel over for these games JB?
Would a Sat twilight game not be better?
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How many fan's travel over for these games JB?
Would a Sat twilight game not be better?
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| Not many,couple of hundred at best. Not a cheap weekend away!
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| Probably preaching to the converted, but missing a trick for the sport, not just for local fans, if there's no team in WA. There's no way that any Aussie state capital's premier rugby team should have flankers in it!
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| They're going to be a "spent Force" when the Pirates enter the NRL!
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