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| Quote ="jonny the leyther"Bang on mate. If I can get any of those two days off i'll be there, i'm baffled why any SL fan would'nt go if it was possible. If they did a Championship Magic Weekend i'd be there.'"
I personally think they should. Championship fans would love the day out.
Would have been great in Cardiff to have them both going at the same time on both pitches. Just need somewhere else for the players to warm up!
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| Quote ="Odem"Championship fans would love the day out.'"
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| Would anyone on here pay £30 to go and watch a day of handball or ice hockey because there friends are going? Then you add in beer money, food etc and it becomes an expensive day! Not saying that it isnt cheap for RL fans, becuase it is. But i cant see many new fans being attracted to the weekend, but that isnt the purpose of it afterall, its just a round of derbys organised to fill the Sky Channel for a weekend.
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| To the above post Handball/Ice Hockey arnt the 2nd most watched sport on SKY where SL is so its worth the £30.
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| Quote ="Broxy Music"Would anyone on here pay £30 to go and watch a day of handball or ice hockey because there friends are going? Then you add in beer money, food etc and it becomes an expensive day! Not saying that it isnt cheap for RL fans, becuase it is. But i cant see many new fans being attracted to the weekend, but that isnt the purpose of it afterall, its just a round of derbys organised to fill the Sky Channel for a weekend.'"
I would. Even if you dont like the sport you can still enjoy the atmosphere and make a good day of it. I arent particularly interested in cricket or darts but I have been to watch both live and thoroughly enjoyed the day. Anyone who likes sport of any kind will find enjoyment in the magic weekend.
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| The point is, why can existing fans (season ticket holders) get in for £15 but NEW fans have to pay double that? It does seem a little unfair, and surely the whole point of an event like this is to attract new fans. If they notice that other people get in for half the price, they aren't likely to go are they?
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Some sort of comparison might be the joke that is WWE Raw wrestling. It's aimed at being a sort of family event, with several contests. Each to his own and I am not knocking anyone who likes it, but the point is, the cheapest tickets for that crap start at £40.
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It's only £20 for a house show, so if you're a skint family, go to them!
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"The point is, why can existing fans (season ticket holders) get in for £15 but NEW fans have to pay double that? It does seem a little unfair, and surely the whole point of an event like this is to attract new fans. If they notice that other people get in for half the price, they aren't likely to go are they?'"
The operative words in your comment are 'Season Ticket Holders', commitment already shown. This is still part of season ticket holders season, just an away match for all of us.
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"The point is, why can existing fans (season ticket holders) get in for £15 but NEW fans have to pay double that? It does seem a little unfair, and surely the whole point of an event like this is to attract new fans. If they notice that other people get in for half the price, they aren't likely to go are they?'"
Look, I can't say this in any way which doesn't come across as blunt, so I'll just tell you the point you're missing, I am NOT "getting in half price", my team is playing and I HAVE ALREADY FOOKIN PAID to watch the game.
I knew when I bought the season ticket that I would get discounted tickets for MM, and that I would have to pay [isomething[/i to get in, and that's reasonable in view of the fact that admission includes 3 more games, but you need to get it into your head that season ticket holders have already paid to watch their team all season.
The other point you miss is the "new fans" CAN get in for £15 just like you. All they need do is buy a season ticket somewhere and hey presto, job done.
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Pick the right games, and that's just what you'll get!
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"icon_confused.gif Look, I can't say this in any way which doesn't come across as blunt, so I'll just tell you the point you're missing, I am NOT "getting in half price", my team is playing and I HAVE ALREADY FOOKIN PAID to watch the game.
I knew when I bought the season ticket that I would get discounted tickets for MM, and that I would have to pay [isomething[/i to get in, and that's reasonable in view of the fact that admission includes 3 more games, but you need to get it into your head that season ticket holders have already paid to watch their team all season.
The other point you miss is the "new fans" CAN get in for £15 just like you. All they need do is buy a season ticket somewhere and hey presto, job done.
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Exactly. You reward your existing customers, but the key thing is that they have to be existing, which means they have to have already paid something. That's how businesses work.
It's like you're suggesting we make it cheaper for new fans instead. I'm sure existing fans would be happy then, forking out money year after year only to be told that they have to pay MORE because of this.
Either that, or you just want to make it ridiculously and unsustainably cheap for everyone, and to this I say go out and try and run your own business and see how you go about setting your prices. You won't last long if you set them low!
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Pick the right games, and that's just what you'll get!'"
I don't think I've ever seen Sam Tomkins stop in the middle of the match and get in the microphone to talk trash, or Ryan Bailey come off the bench with a steel chair! Although they might as well I suppose!
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| Bloody hell fire - lets make it free for everyone - no, free entry and a free season ticket to a club of your choice for next season - FOR EVERYONE !!
Hang on...that wont be fair cos someone may get a season ticket for a club which is more expensive than mine therefore i am losing out and its a joke......nope cant do that !!
FFS £30 to watch 4 games of the most exciting sport in the world in one of the finest stadiums in the country and people STILL MOAN.
why dont you get your friends to watch a few games on TV 1st so they know ehat their getting ...if they dont like it they wont need to come.
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"The point is, why can existing fans (season ticket holders) get in for £15 but NEW fans have to pay double that? It does seem a little unfair, and surely the whole point of an event like this is to attract new fans. If they notice that other people get in for half the price, they aren't likely to go are they?'"
I sort of agree with this and the first post in the thread. I don't see how the magic weekend is going to attract many new fans to RL with the current pricing structure. As someone else has posted in this thread, it is more an event for sky to fill a weekend programming, rather than any attempt to attract new fans/expand the game.
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| Quote ="Karlos13"I sort of agree with this and the first post in the thread. I don't see how the magic weekend is going to attract many new fans to RL with the current pricing structure. As someone else has posted in this thread, it is more an event for sky to fill a weekend programming, rather than any attempt to attract new fans/expand the game.'"
How do RU and Premier League teams get new fans? Do they pay special prices?
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| Quote ="Karlos13"I sort of agree with this and the first post in the thread. I don't see how the magic weekend is going to attract many new fans to RL with the current pricing structure.'"
Thankfully, the RFL don't employ you to worry your head about this. But in general the idea is that new fans WATCH IT ON THE TELLY. Why the fsck do you think Sky are televising it? Do you think Sky
(a) want to attract new fans to increase viewing figures; or
(b) pay through the nose to stage and televise the event in order to have less viewers and lose money?
I'd leave the financial worrying to the Sky beancounters and just enjoy the games if I were you.
Quote ="Karlos13" As someone else has posted in this thread, it is more an event for sky to fill a weekend programming, rather than any attempt to attract new fans/expand the game.'"
Is your brain the wrong way round or something? It is INDEED an event for Sky to fill a weekend programming! That's, er, like the whole fekkin point!
Yep, a whole weekend of rugby league taking centre programming stage. Have you actually thought about this at all?
Just answer me one question: What do you reckon Sky's aim is, in televising any given sport live and at great expense?
Or maybe a second: Which sport has got the vacated Monday Night Premeir League Soccer slot?
And why?
The Magic event is just that, a big EVENT, RL at centre stage, before a large audience, in the news. But I know, let's make admission free, so that people all go to the game, instead of paying Sky subscriptions. Can you see any catch with that at all?
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| It doesn't appeal to me, nor a lot of people I know, because frankly, I just don't want to sit through three games. Likewise, I can take my wife and two under 8s to ONE game, and they enjoy themselves, but they'd never sit through three. Now, that doesn't mean it's a bad idea, just that it doesn't work for everyone.
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"Exactly. You reward your existing customers, but the key thing is that they have to be existing, which means they have to have already paid something. That's how businesses work.
It's like you're suggesting we make it cheaper for new fans instead. I'm sure existing fans would be happy then, forking out money year after year only to be told that they have to pay MORE because of this.
Either that, or you just want to make it ridiculously and unsustainably cheap for everyone, and to this I say go out and try and run your own business and see how you go about setting your prices. You won't last long if you set them low!
I don't think I've ever seen Sam Tomkins stop in the middle of the match and get in the microphone to talk trash, or Ryan Bailey come off the bench with a steel chair! Although they might as well I suppose!'"
I have however, seen a fan at a amateur game hit a winger with a kid's
pushchair, kid still in it. True that.
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| Quote ="yickpie24"MM is not the GF or CC is it tho...?'"
What is your point?
MM is not the GF or CC but to someone who is going to a game for the first time its largely irrelevant. GF and CC are not often great games due to what is at stake.
If you are that bothered, take your friends to your own clubs home games.
On the basis you are calling it the "tragic" weekend, I am guessing you are a glass very much half empty type. In which case, do everyone a favour and emigrate to somewhere you can find top level sport for less than a tenner a game
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| Quote ="Karlos13"I sort of agree with this and the first post in the thread. I don't see how the magic weekend is going to attract many new fans to RL with the current pricing structure. As someone else has posted in this thread, it is more an event for sky to fill a weekend programming, rather than any attempt to attract new fans/expand the game.'"
Bigger picture, it's aimed at RL fans. Hopefully staging it in the heartlands will see a good attendance (% wise) which will give the marketing guys a useful tool for future campaigns.
The use of Cardiff and Edinburgh were never really going to attract genuine new fans as there was no club for them to latch only locally.
I'd imagine there will not be that many die hards who will sit through four games. It's not reasonable to expect a newbie to the game to sit through any more than two games.
That being said, this thread is typical if the type of a fan who wants something for nothing. if RL is to be lauded as The Greatest Game, it should not be sold at Netto prices.
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"Bigger picture, it's aimed at RL fans. Hopefully staging it in the heartlands will see a good attendance (% wise) which will give the marketing guys a useful tool for future campaigns.
The use of Cardiff and Edinburgh were never really going to attract genuine new fans as there was no club for them to latch only locally.
I'd imagine there will not be that many die hards who will sit through four games. It's not reasonable to expect a newbie to the game to sit through any more than two games.
That being said, this thread is typical if the type of a fan who wants something for nothing. if RL is to be lauded as The Greatest Game, it should not be sold at Netto prices.'"
And you don't see Netto anymore do you!
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"And you don't see Netto anymore do you!'"
Only because Asda paid nearly £800m quid for their UK stores.
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"The point is, why can existing fans (season ticket holders) get in for £15 but NEW fans have to pay double that? It does seem a little unfair, and surely the whole point of an event like this is to attract new fans. If they notice that other people get in for half the price, they aren't likely to go are they?'"
Finally somebody sees my point , surely there is a price structure that can reward season ticket holders and attract new supporters? (We can put man on the moon but cant do this... )
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"What is your point?
MM is not the GF or CC but to someone who is going to a game for the first time its largely irrelevant. GF and CC are not often great games due to what is at stake.
If you are that bothered, take your friends to your own clubs home games.
On the basis you are calling it the "tragic" weekend, I am guessing you are a glass very much half empty type. In which case, do everyone a favour and emigrate to somewhere you can find top level sport for less than a tenner a game
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My point there is that the GF and CC final has more prestige and attraction than MM obviously, so fans (new or otherwise) are willing to pay £30 to attend.
The 'Tragic' tag is tounge in cheek, i have friends who are season ticket holders at other clubs and will not pay £15 to go and watch MM this year purley because of the location, if you know Eastlands, Etihad is a good 20-25min walk from Piccadilly station with limited public transport links if you are not driving. Just as importantly there are limited bars, restaurants, outlets etc around the stadium unlike Cardiff, i hope the RFL have considered this...
Rather than glass half empty i would say 'realistic' and looking to improve our sport hence me trying to attract people to watch it
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| Quote ="yickpie24"
The 'Tragic' tag is tounge in cheek, i have friends who are season ticket holders at other clubs and will not pay £15 to go and watch MM this year purley because of the location, if you know Eastlands, Etihad is a good 20-25min walk from Piccadilly station with limited public transport links if you are not driving. '"
Do many people go to away matches on the trains? I'd say there's lots of grounds in the league that are more than 20-25 minutes walk from a convenient train station. So I'm not really sure that train station locations has played a part in deciding on a venue.
And with your original point I suppose it comes down to how much you love the game, and can market it to your mates. I work around the Manchester area with a majority of people who don't really watch RL on TV, and none of them go to games. Yet I'll still get a group of tickets for the grand final every year for us all because I told them it'll be a great day/night after, and they enjoyed it so much we've been going every year since.
When I told them they could get a full weekend ticket for around £50 to watch as many games as they like, and a full weekend of drinking and banter thrown in they were all signing up. I've got a group of 6 of us weekend tickets, and a dozen or so others for single day tickets. Now they're not spectacular numbers, but that's pretty much just people I work with and only 2 of those watch RL on TV.
You can either big it up to your mates as a great day for £30 or you say "I know you don't like rugby league, but do you fancy paying £30 to sit through 3 whole games live?"
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| Quote ="yickpie24"
The 'Tragic' tag is tounge in cheek,
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Er, no it wasn't.
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"Because of the location"? Wow. You'd best get on to the City of Manchester and break it gently to them that the stadium's in the wrong place. Nobody will ever come. Doomed to failure. I wonder how the Russian fans of Zenit, or for that matter Rangers fans, felt when they played the UEFA Cup Final there?
I also note that 48,000 hardy and intrepid souls managed to find the place just yesterday.
Quote ="yickpie24" Just as importantly there are limited bars, restaurants, outlets etc around the stadium unlike Cardiff, i hope the RFL have considered this... '"
Astonishing insight. I can't imagine they did. It is too cutting edge. Wait . . . I wonder . . will they be selling any food and drink INSIDE the stadium? Left field, I know, but could be possible.
Quote ="yickpie24"Rather than glass half empty i would say 'realistic' and looking to improve our sport hence me trying to attract people to watch it
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You're a whining flatcapper, who wishes he could have winter, mud and Eddie Waring back. Tell me this - what the fsck use would restaurants and outlets around the ground be to you and your tightwad mates? They won't even pay £15 for a bleeding ticket!
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