As far as Hull kingston Rovers go I'll give our squad of '83 to '85 an honourable mention as one with a record of note.

1983-84
Championship Winners
Premiership Winners
Beat 1983 Queensland Tourists

1984-85
Championship Winners
JPS Winners
Premiership R-Up
Yorkshire Cup R-Up
Challenge Cup S/F

Unbeaten away from home in all competitions a calendar year between Mar 84 -Mar 85.

It was either 1983 or 1984 that HKR clinched the championship at Leigh. I was at Hilton Park that day to see you lift the trophy on the pitch.

But what I also think seems to be forgotten is in two of years Leeds won from second, they had only finished a point behind Saints in the league, I would hardly class a point margin to decide the league as total dominance from Saints.

True, both good sides but Saints also took the cup both of those seasons too, no mean feat. All I meant was to say Saints weren't one season wonders and with things going ever so slightly different it could be Saints talked about as the greatest side of the last ten years

Yeah I wasn't trying to take away from what Saints achieved. It is just I think people had more of a perception of Saints totally dominating the league and winning it easily, when infact it was very close in two of the seasons they won it.

1984 mate - my memory fails me as to which team won the title in '83

Had the Wigan teams of the late 80's and early 90's have been playing today with the tactics, training, fitness, diet, conditioning... and everything else that comes with the modern game, nobody would get near them.

In the super league era Wigan, Bradford, Saints and Leeds have all had their quality teams and I don't think you can say one was better than the other. They were all so different and all at different times throughout the decade.

Bradford looked the most dominant in the ealry 2000's, but I don't think the league was as competitive back then. People forget that during Leeds spell they were not always finishing top of the league but they knew how to turn it on for the big games.

I would probably say Saints was the most impressive year in 2006 overall.

I will leave Wigan out of it so I am not favouring them but 2010 is certainly up there with the best, from an average team to champions took some doing. I will go with Saints 2006 though, the way they backed it up in 2007 against Brisbane was outstanding, that is the difference for me. Still the best WCC win in the modern era.

yes i remember that year and season well the year mark broadhurst stuck one on a queensland players chin the crowd went daft with their cheering and the ref did not send him off happy days

I remember having to play around 6 games in three weeks, mostly away because of fixture pile up from cup runs, we won them all to be crowned champions. It will never happen again because of the way the fixtures are planned out.

Saints 2006.

I can't believe someone has said they were one season wonders! 6 GFs in a row (and counting!), 4 LLS in a row and 3 Challenge Cups in a row along with a WCC to boot, but they're one season wonders! Yeah, OK! Wish my team were "one season wonders" like them (rather than the one season wonders we actually were!).

Wigan had to pile up the fixtures at the back end of the season to win the league AND cup in 1991.

23rd March Cup semi-final v Oldham
26th March Warrington away
29th March Fev away
1st April Oldham away
4th April St Helens away
7th April Castleford at home
9th April Widnes home (29,000 at central park)
11th April Bradford at home (20,000 at central park)
13th April Leeds away
Then despite losing to Fev in the play-off, they won the cup final against St Helens at Wembley

A crazy run of games that will never happen again. A total of 8 fixtures had been postponed throughout the season.

And players ad coaches moan thesedays about playing games close together at Easter!

Im not sure anyone was trying to say that St's only functioned for that one season, more drawing attention to the fact that St's 05 and St's 07 were a pretty similar side to St's 06 but not anywhere near as successful.

It is hard to argue St's 06 as the greatest club side of all time when in 05 Bradford were champions and in 07 Leeds were champions.

In fact its difficult to argue St's 06 were the greatest club side of that time when Leeds made 4 of 5 grand finals, winning 3 in the two years either side of that year compared to St's total of 3 GF's winning 1.

Im not doing St's down, as a Leeds fan im thankful for them, without them being such a good club in that time it would have taken away from Leeds achievement somewhat. Two great clubs whose success was fantastic.

As a Leeds fan i think our achievements of the past 7 years has been amazing. Champions 5 times in 7 years in a fully pro environment is and a salary capped league is an amazing side, in 2004 we were outstanding at times.

Wigan 1994 Grand Slam winning side.

That's what I'd have said. But then any team containing Neil Fox would be contenders. Best footballer I've seen.

There was no conscription in WWI until after 1915. It was a a volunteer army. Does anyone have any info as to whether clubs lost players this early? In WWII Dewsbury won everything because Eddie Waring had players from clubs all over the League playing for them.

Im biased but for me the Wigan side funnily enough just before it all collapsed in 1995. Don't think there has ever been a greater backline assembled than the wigan backline of that season (and i'd include even the great australian sides in that). For me i'd challenge anyone to show me a better backline ever than 1. Paul 2.Robinson 3. Tuigamala 4. Connolly 5. Offiah 6. Botica 7. Edwards - especially when you think you had radlinski to add to the mix!

Add forwards of Skerrett, Hall, O'Connor, Cowie, Cassidy, Betts, Clarke, Farrell etc. I cant see there has ever been better.

Either the wigan side of 89-94 or Saints 05-08. Both completely dominated the game for a sustained period. I wish they could have played each other!

I agree with all this but Leeds have still not 'dominated'. There are times over those 7 years where other teams have been far better. Leeds have just proved to have the ability when it comes to the big games. I think winning 3 GF's despite not finishing top proves this. I think the core of your team since the early 2000's has pulled you through GF's that over the course of the season you did not look like winning. Despite being an amazing side, that is not domination.

2004 was Leeds best year, they backed it up with a WCC win in 2005.

Yes, but given they had all the money in the world to buy ANY player they wanted its not such a great acheivement, ask Man city and Chelsea.

In 05, Saints were decimated by injuries to key men at the back end of the season. In 2007, they only lost one key game (albeit they got battered in the end). The side they had in 2006 sweeped everything before them, and not just in the game. How many sides can lay claim to that?

You are also excluding all the narrow wins they had that year. I wasn't trying to do down Sts' efforts, just that there seems to be a perception of how 'dominant' they were and yet they only won the title once during the 'Lyon' era. I wouldn't argue Leeds were dominant, but if you are going to add Sts 2005 and 2007, I'd argue Warrington last year should be added to the mix.

As for someone stating that the Wigan backline 95 was the best ever, you're having a laugh surely? Look at the Qld Origin team last year for starters - Lockyer, Inglis, Thurston and Slater are literally light years better than their counterparts in that Wigan side.

This. But also as i understand Rugby League players were discouraged from signing up as were many other sportsmen as the war was supposed to be over by Christmas so thay wanted to keep morale up.

I think you are doing a massive disservice to Leeds and Bradford and re-writing history a fair bit. The idea that in 05 St's were walking to the GF but only derailed by Terry Newton is a myth. In 2005 the GF was contested by the same Leeds side which had utterly dominated SL in 2004, and the Bradford side who were only 2 years on from their great side of 2003. These were two very good sides, the same two sides who had contested the GF the year before.

In 2007 they lost the GF to Leeds and won the league from them by a total of 1 point. Realistically Leeds had the same season as St's with us each losing one key game, we lost in the CC they lost in the GF.

I liked Workington Town 1979 era and Hull early eighties.Hull played some lovely football back then,full of running and backing up, wide balls,miss moves, interpassing,dummy runners,all done fluently and effortless .It was a pleasure to watch.

Again, the modern era is open for a lot of debate but the pre WW1 Huddersfield side dominated for a period of years, culminating in winning all four cups. And while some might say the war had an effect it can be pointed to their record prior to this suggesting they were utterly dominant and might have had several years of. The same

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