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Huddersfield
Hull FC
Leeds
St Helens
Warrington
Wigan
Bradford/Hull KR
Top 4 playoffs, followed by a Premiership style end of season competition
Division 1 - Bottom team relegated
Castleford
London
Salford
Wakefield
Widnes
Bradford/Hull KR
Leigh
Featherstone
Halifax
Sheffield
Top 4 playoffs
Division 2 - Champions promoted
Batley
Dewsbury
Hunslet
Keighley
Swinton
York
Oldham
Rochdale
Barrow
Doncaster
N Wales
S Wales
Whitehaven
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Top 6 playoffs
Divisions 1 and 2 play in NRC
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| Until the lesser sides can keep hold of their better players then the league will probably continue to be like it is. In recent years salford have lost 2 quality british halfbacks to warrington, now that inturn pushes warrington right into the mix but really knocks salford for six. Same at wakefield losing players like murphy,george and brough to huddersfield, the sad thing is murphy should be playing everyweek in superleague, yet hes rotting away kind of in the reserves. cas appear to have thrown all their eggs in one basket keeping hold of chase and at present that tactic seems to have backfired.Widnes were always likely to struggle this year forming a new team plus we all know last years widnes were poor even in the division they played in, so the local lads theyve got in there, will take a year or 2 to get used to superleague.All clubs need money men not just the select few sadly this doesnt appear to be happening at present.
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| Quote ="Conroy"Top 8 Super League - Franchise based with applications every 3 years
Catalans
Huddersfield
Hull FC
Leeds
St Helens
Warrington
Wigan
Bradford/Hull KR
Top 4 playoffs, followed by a Premiership style end of season competition
Division 1 - Bottom team relegated
Castleford
London
Salford
Wakefield
Widnes
Bradford/Hull KR
Leigh
Featherstone
Halifax
Sheffield
Top 4 playoffs
Division 2 - Champions promoted
Batley
Dewsbury
Hunslet
Keighley
Swinton
York
Oldham
Rochdale
Barrow
Doncaster
N Wales
S Wales
Whitehaven
Workington
Top 6 playoffs
Divisions 1 and 2 play in NRC'"
What happens to the work done at Skolars
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| Quote ="Wnidyone2012"What happens to the work done at Skolars
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Knew I'd missed someone off. Think I've missed another as well tbh
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| Quote ="liger05"The salary cap is pointless if clubs spend nowhere near the allowance.'"
.......... with some spending above it, but having clever accountants.
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| Quote ="vbfg"No we haven't.
Bradford were in the top tier and now aren't.
Since Bradford last won anything Wigan have been on the verge of relegation and turned it around to win a title.
Huddersfield were in the lower leagues and are now top of the table.
Leeds were nowhere for years in Super League, and now dominate.
Warrington had won nothing for years and are one of the best teams in the competition.
If Catalans aren't a success then I don't what else to call them.
Hull FC are starting to look like a team of the future and Bradford are turning things around and becoming competitive again. Hull KR and Salford, and to a lesser extent Wakefield and Widnes, have all given glimpses of what they can do.
The competition is in the better health now than any point I can remember. I agree with you that the number of teams that have played GFs is disappointing, but there are three who haven't in Hudds, Wire and Cats who wouldn't look at all out of place there.
Teams are more accustomed to planning their squads in the context of the cap now. The structure of the cap and quotas is encouraging more teams to develop their own youth as the core of their squads. We're moving in the right direction.'"
This.
Let me preface the next part by saying I wish Super League had addressed parity to a greater degree than it has but there's no doubt in my mind it's been a success overall.
Super League has had 4 different teams win the championship. In the decade preceeding Super League two different teams had been champions.
In the 10 years prior to Super League there were three teams that won the challenge cup. In the first ten years of super league six different teams have won the challenge cup.
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| Quote ="rover49".......... with some spending above it, but having clever accountants.'"
We assume you mean HKR as they are the club you clearly have most knowledge of?
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| Quote ="StanTHEWildcat"Until the lesser sides can keep hold of their better players then the league will probably continue to be like it is. In recent years salford have lost 2 quality british halfbacks to warrington, now that inturn pushes warrington right into the mix but really knocks salford for six. Same at wakefield losing players like murphy,george and brough to huddersfield, the sad thing is murphy should be playing everyweek in superleague, yet hes rotting away kind of in the reserves. cas appear to have thrown all their eggs in one basket keeping hold of chase and at present that tactic seems to have backfired.Widnes were always likely to struggle this year forming a new team plus we all know last years widnes were poor even in the division they played in, so the local lads theyve got in there, will take a year or 2 to get used to superleague.All clubs need money men not just the select few sadly this doesnt appear to be happening at present.'"
Yes, but what goes around comes around. In the early years of SL Warrington similarly lost Paul Sculthorpe and Iestyn Harris to richer teams - that certainly knocked Wire for six. Success is to some extent always cyclical. In the 1970s Salford were a real force and there is no one thing you can point to that saw them slip from Champions to strugglers over the next thirty years. Check out Bradford Bulls' more recent history for another example.
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| I think until the RFL owns all the teams and all the teams are run for the good of the game, the game won't grow, and won't be even.
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| Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"Huddersfield to me are the prime example of a team that through a gradual but continued commitment to youth, have got better almost year on year. With no salary cap restrictions, would they have been able to keep the likes of Cudjoe? With no franchising would they have even dared go down that route in the first place?'"
This would be the same Huddersfield who signed promising Bulls academy products Patrick and Wardle? Who have a very wealthy owner, who I suspect if there was no cap would be sorely tempted to spend rather more to buy success?
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| Quote ="Adeybull"This would be the same Huddersfield who signed promising Bulls academy products Patrick and Wardle? Who have a very wealthy owner, who I suspect if there was no cap would be sorely tempted to spend rather more to buy success?'"
Do Bradford spend to the cap? It's not a dig, it's just a general question.
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| With a third of the season gone, it looks like the current top tier of the Super League (and therefore the often quoted ‘Big 4’) are Hull FC, Warrington, Huddersfield and Catalan Dragons
That’s the problem with the Super League, all too predictable
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