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| Quote ="Cherry.Pie"Westwood grabbed Webb around the mouth quite blatantly when effecting the tackle. Then the elbow/forearm when down on his face. I'd say the forearm wasn't deliberate but was caused by him grabbing him round the face so the first offence was Westwood's.'"
I thought there was intent there, but he missed, and decided to lean on Webb's head instead. I also thought that Westwood had been hunting Webb out for a while, after Webb's blatant grapple tackle on him earlier (which, if spotted and penalised, could have defused the situation). Westwood went looking for him immediately after that, but had to wait to get his retaliation in.
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| Quote ="LeightonP"I thought there was intent there, but he missed, and decided to lean on Webb's head instead. I also thought that Westwood had been hunting Webb out for a while, after Webb's blatant grapple tackle on him earlier (which, if spotted and penalised, could have defused the situation). Westwood went looking for him immediately after that, but had to wait to get his retaliation in.'"
Exactly I how I saw it. Benny was definately hunting Webb.
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| Brent Webb and Ben Westwood are both ars*holes, simples.
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| Webb's poor discipline and tendency to hit too high in the tackle have always been irritating for Leeds fans. I doubt he's going to change anything at this stage of his career though.
Westwood was deliberately niggling Webb in a Bailey-esque manner. Luckily for him it paid off that time. What are the odds that a tackle involving Webb and Westwood doesn't end up in a penalty being awarded one way or another?
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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"Westwood should be, no real difference to what Chris Bridge did, maybe its a tactic being coached at Wire, would be disappointed if so, they really dont need it, I expect it is just coincidence.
Blythe however would be the first player ever up before the DC for slowing the tackle down.'"
Don't be stupid. You are obviously ignoring the smack in the mouth that Webb gave Westwood earlier in the game. Webb has a very nasty habit of making straight tackles and made a couple last night. If you think that the Chris Bridge thing from last week is being coached, then you really are being stupid.
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| Quote ="Teessidewire"Don't be stupid. You are obviously ignoring the smack in the mouth that Webb gave Westwood earlier in the game. Webb has a very nasty habit of making straight tackles and made a couple last night. If you think that the Chris Bridge thing from last week is being coached, then you really are being stupid.'"
As i said, i expect its just coincidence that Westwood and Bridge used the same cheap shot technique to hit a player on the ground and unable to defend themselves.
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| In that one case, Westwood was taking a cheap shot, nothing new, he's a cheapshot merchant - but Webb is worse.
That said, I am glad Webb plays for Leeds
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| I am rather glad Webb plays for Leeds as well, and can well understand his frustrations with some of the less talented opposition players he encounters.
At this late stage in his career he has nothing left to prove,and I just wish he would use his experience more, and his head hunting tackling less.
That said, I don't think anyone should really be penalised for giving Westwood a smack.....it's hardly going to ruin his film star looks, now is it?
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| Brent Webb was once a very talented RL player - now he just looks jaded, cynical and grubby; the horrible gurning and ranting at the officials every time he's tackled gives the impression of either a big baby or a prima-donna.
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| Quote ="bren2k"Brent Webb was once a very talented RL player '" He's still creating try after try after try. But his petulance has been more than an irritant for some time now.
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| Does he? I know he creates penalty after penalty for the opposition.
Oh, wait, he does create tries for them too when he lets the ball bounce.
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| Quote ="Code13"Does he? I know he creates penalty after penalty for the opposition.
Oh, wait, he does create tries for them too when he lets the ball bounce.'"
One thing I do know, he collects Grand Final winners rings like nobodies business. The biggest baby in Rugby league is Lee Briers, if anyone dares to look at him he bawls and wets his pants.
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| Well Leeds have set the standard everyone else has to follow to win a Grand Final. Warrington are apparently emulating the cheap shot part of that standard so if they can emulate the "Sinfield being the second ref" and "How dare people tackle me" parts of it then the Grand Final will be theirs soon enough.
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| Quote ="leeds owl"One thing I do know, he collects Grand Final winners rings like nobodies business. The biggest baby in Rugby league is Lee Briers, if anyone dares to look at him he bawls :2dvi9xcoand wets his pants.[/
You let yourself down with the highlighted section.
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| Quote ="Code13"Does he? I know he creates penalty after penalty for the opposition.
Oh, wait, he does create tries for them too when he lets the ball bounce.'"
And yet, numerous coaches in both the NRL and SL have continued to select him week in, week out. In many cases, despite having a number of supposedly better (according to opposition fans) options available.
They clearly are missing something that you and the other whiners in this thread can see - you really should take up elite level coaching with such amazing insight.
You'll be p*ssing away what's left of your credibility next by telling me you'd rather have Grix the Lesser in your team at full-back. Tell him Zak Hardaker says hello and thanks for all the tries
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| I did think Westwood got away with a pearler on Webb, but at the same time like they said on the NRL game commentary i watched last weekend when Tahu gave a penalty away while in possession inside the oppo 20, "like my old coach said, when you've got the ball in your hand, they can bite your face off and you shouldnt react".
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| Quote ="Norman Stanley Fletcher"Especially if youre someone with an over sized chin trying to ram your shoulder into his windpipe.'"
I have always thought he had a bit of a bo selecta head.
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| Quote ="Code13"Webb of 2009
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Webb of 2012
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I don't think Webb has changed since 2005 at NZ Worriors he has always been agressive, petulant and questionable tackle technique. Not been his biggest fan last year but his attack has drastically improved on last year, and is creating chances in attack
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| Quote ="Code13"Webb of 2009
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Webb of 2012
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Still one of the top 3 fullbacks in the league. Who would you rather have?
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| Its seems a minority of Wigan supporters have developed this 'Webb syndrome'. Apparently they can only be defeated if their is a conspiracy/foul play or they just couldnt be bothered, Its impossible for the opposition to just be better than them on the day.
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| Quote ="craigizzard"Still one of the top 3 fullbacks in the league. Who would you rather have?'"
I don't even think he is the best full back at the club any more. Look all over our board and most people agree. I think he is only there this year because we have an average 3/4 line age of about 7
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| Quote ="craigizzard"Still one of the top 3 fullbacks in the league. Who would you rather have?'"
Brett Hodgson
Sam Tomkins
Luke Patten
Scott Grix
Luke Dorn
Clint Greenshields
There's probably a few more as well.
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I don't even think he is the best full back at the club any more. Look all over our board and most people agree. I think he is only there this year because we have an average 3/4 line age of about 7
'" The alternatives would be competent full backs but I can't see any of them offering Webb's attacking advantages - which is why he remains key IMO.
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