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| Quote ="Wales for super L"Most jobs that have a London weighting, its a couple of thousand pounds, it seems in RL its a couple of hundred thousand pounds
I dont buy into the idea London is a less attractive club to players, to the British players that maybe true, but super league is half made up of Aussie's, Kiwi's and pacific islander's, who would find London a much more attractive place to live than the likes of St helens, Warrington, Hull ect'"
Have you ever stopped to think that you might not be right on this one?
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| The top clubs get much more for their money. LMS is on the same money as he would've been if he'd stayed in London. But he wanted the challenge of leaving one of the greatest cities in the world to live in a strange northern small town. A bit like when Bear Grylls goes to live in an uninhabitable part of the world for a while. A proper test of character.
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| It's good that they have backer willing to flash the cash, can;t help but think a salary cap of 1.45 mill and and extra 200k to marketing might have been a better spend!
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| It would be great if more RL fans in the SE came to watch us. There's so many who associate themselves with northern clubs but don't get themselves to London games. RL fans are good at moaning but not so good at supporting the game. Come along its a fantastic family atmosphere with genuine, passionate RL fans of all sorts of backgrounds.
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| Quote ="Tre Cool"It would be great if more RL fans in the SE came to watch us. There's so many who associate themselves with northern clubs but don't get themselves to London games. RL fans are good at moaning but not so good at supporting the game. Come along its a fantastic family atmosphere with genuine, passionate RL fans of all sorts of backgrounds.'"
Passionate fans yes but the ground is a bit lifeless and can put some off, i go to both London and Wire games and the difference in atmosphere is vast.
London games feel like Sunday dinner with the family and Wire games feel like a night out with lads
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| Quote ="Horatio Yed"Passionate fans yes but the ground is a bit lifeless and can put some off, i go to both London and Wire games and the difference in atmosphere is vast.
London games feel like Sunday dinner with the family and Wire games feel like a night out with lads'"
Atmos was much better at Brentford but can still be good when we are playing ok. I'm hoping Brisbane Road will offer a better atmos and long term solution.
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| I doubt it Leyton O are dying to move out.
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| Quote Passionate fans yes but the ground is a bit lifeless and can put some off, i go to both London and Wire games and the difference in atmosphere is vast.
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Did you ever go to Wilderspool when the club wasnt top of the league
Of course the HJ is going to be bouncing when you have the best team in the country
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| Many fans would argue that Wilderspool had a better atmosphere than the HJ with less fans, personally i preferred the feeling i had back at The Zoo than the HJ, hoping the new corners help hold the noise in.
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| Quote ="JB Down Under"It's good that they have backer willing to flash the cash, can;t help but think a salary cap of 1.45 mill and and extra 200k to marketing might have been a better spend!'"
Have you been tapping my phone?
The issue with Londons ESL team is that after 16 years of 100% neglect of any Marketing Strategy at all, the opportunity to organically grow bit by bit, may well have gone.
I get the impression that DH is not prepared to spend on the promotion of the Game as well as propping up the games expansion franchise......I have to say, I agree with him.
Why SLY TV won't do to London what they did for the Storm I have no idea.....
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Quote ="Wales for super L"Most jobs that have a London weighting, its a couple of thousand pounds, it seems in RL its a couple of hundred thousand pounds
I dont buy into the idea London is a less attractive club to players, to the British players that maybe true, but super league is half made up of Aussie's, Kiwi's and pacific islander's, who would find London a much more attractive place to live than the likes of St helens, Warrington, Hull ect'"
A few thousand pounds??? Ok.... here is an example. I've checked a property website. I don't know (nor am I picking on Leeds) but here is a 4 bedroom house for sale -
www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for ... 35862.html
£50k
Here is a house in London (again 4 bedrooms) -
www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for ... 97166.html
£190k
Now, both areas of these are probably not the best to live and I'm sure you can get far nicer (and more expensive house) in both cities....but the point is that sort of price is the difference on every run of the ladder.
Hence the need for London players to be paid far more!
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Quote ="Wales for super L"Most jobs that have a London weighting, its a couple of thousand pounds, it seems in RL its a couple of hundred thousand pounds
I dont buy into the idea London is a less attractive club to players, to the British players that maybe true, but super league is half made up of Aussie's, Kiwi's and pacific islander's, who would find London a much more attractive place to live than the likes of St helens, Warrington, Hull ect'"
A few thousand pounds??? Ok.... here is an example. I've checked a property website. I don't know (nor am I picking on Leeds) but here is a 4 bedroom house for sale -
www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for ... 35862.html
£50k
Here is a house in London (again 4 bedrooms) -
www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for ... 97166.html
£190k
Now, both areas of these are probably not the best to live and I'm sure you can get far nicer (and more expensive house) in both cities....but the point is that sort of price is the difference on every run of the ladder.
Hence the need for London players to be paid far more!
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| Quote ="east stander"Did you ever go to Wilderspool when the club wasn't top of the league
Of course the HJ is going to be bouncing when you have the best team in the country'"
i preferred the atmosphere at the zoo you couldn't beat the banging on the old corrugated iron and the bounce that went on there i miss wilderspool for the atmosphere that you could hear in the town centre an d the walk over the bridge and causeway had your nerves jangeling
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| Thats a cheap house for London must be hell of a rough area?
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| Quote ="Wnidyone2012"Thats a cheap house for London must be hell of a rough area?'"
SE2.....that's south of the stream and any further east it would be in Kent.......the description says "freehold", although it looks very much lile ex-council.
Bracondale Road, Abbey Wood, London, SE2...google it and then hit streetview....makes Brentford look like Mayfair
Given Leeds and London were being compared,
cheapest TW2 4 Bedroom house was 299,950
[urlhttp://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/find.html?locationIdentifier=OUTCODE%5E2724&insId=1&sortByPriceDescending=false&sortByRelevance=false&minBedrooms=4&maxBedrooms=4&displayPropertyType=houses&retirement=false&oldDisplayPropertyType=houses[/url
Cheapest LS6 4 beds is 60k....
[urlhttp://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/find.html?locationIdentifier=OUTCODE%5E1550&insId=2&sortByPriceDescending=false&minBedrooms=4&maxBedrooms=4&displayPropertyType=houses&retirement=false&oldDisplayPropertyType=houses[/url
Now......where's the RFL bailing out the Bulls thread......
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| London weighting was mainly for public sector workers, civil servants/NHS techers etc. It also applied to the home counties areas situated outside of the M25. Salaries in London are much higher than anywhere else and even this is often not enough with more poverty in London than anywhere else.
That some people can't get their heads around the fact that a professional sportspersons salary might be 20+% greater than his equivalent counterpart in an area relatively far cheaper to live in is quite bemusing!
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"That some people can't get their heads around the fact that a professional sportspersons salary might be 20+% greater than his equivalent counterpart in an area relatively far cheaper to live in is quite bemusing!'"
....London Broncos v.2 will be spanding about 1.375 million on wages, +20% extra for London weighting, which means they are at the cap, but only getting about 81% of the value that Northern Teams are getting...........another disadvantage that we rarely complain about but would be justified to.
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| Quote ="gutterfax"....London Broncos v.2 will be spanding about 1.375 million on wages, +20% extra for London weighting, which means they are at the cap, but only getting about 81% of the value that Northern Teams are getting...........another disadvantage that we rarely complain about but would be justified to.'"
A few years ago I put the same question of this forum and got laughed at!
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| You would get laughed at as there are stacks who come on here who have never left there pit village. When you are dealing with that type you end up arguing about the price of a fairy cake at the annual school fete.
London is in another stratosphere to some
If its not pit village v pit village on a muddy pitch it isnt rugby League
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| Quote ="Dave Lister"Slightly more expensive to find accomodation in South West London than it is in the North. Salaries will reflect that.'"
wot he said
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| Quote ="Wnidyone2012"Thats a cheap house for London must be hell of a rough area?'"
Its a cheap house for Leeds as well ?
That guy ought to be an estate agent
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| Quote ="wire quin"You would get laughed at as there are stacks who come on here who have never left there pit village. When you are dealing with that type you end up arguing about the price of a fairy cake at the annual school fete.
London is in another stratosphere to some
If its not pit village v pit village on a muddy pitch it isnt rugby League'"
Wire Quin, whats a pit villiage ?
I had a look on Wiki, but it says they dont exist anymore.
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| Call them unemployment villages if you will but they are the same conerbations but without the coal.
The simplistic mindset hasn't changed as demostrated by some on here.
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| It seems Craig Gower is as deluded as some people on this forum
Quote London Broncos back Craig Gower is targeting Super League supremacy on his return to rugby league.
The 33-year-old has switched codes after three years playing rugby union for Bayonne and Italy and he has immediately targeted leading the newly-rebranded Broncos to the top of the table.
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| Damn it, why didn't he get here, target the bottom of the table and express he's only here for the money.......
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| I thought all the antipodeans were flocking to London for the culture and exciting lifestyle? Surely you would have to pay someone more to live in Widnes than London?
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