You're easily offended then!

So Burgess, Brough, Hock shouldn't even be afforded the opportunity?

Watkins, Hardacre, Lomax don't deserve the chance to step up in two years time at the World Cup?

We might as well give up then because there's no one else n the horizon and those I named are proven to be not good enough.

Obviously I have a problem with Leeds that's why I've named two Leeds p,ayers as possible replacements!

I suggest you and Old Faithfull get your heads from up your s.

Well hock and burgess have both played in previous losing international sides, so by your logic - NO LONGER REQUIRED.

Brough has played for scotland so can't start playing for us now. He nailed his colours to the scottish mast, we don't want him.

Watkins, hardacre and lomax, may or may not be good enough. To be continued....

In a word NO!

Your small mindedness might limit your ability to see beyond club colours but don't project that onto me, ta.

But neither Burgess or Hock are approaching their mid thirties and neither have looked old and laboured in this series.

we after look at jonny lomax and burgess but other than that i wouldnt change too much.

watching the game tonight the aussies looked like a club side they all knew their job and plyed the same set patterns all night and the kick chase was fantastic,this imo is brought about because the fundamentals of the side doesnt change too much over the years lockyer,thurston,smith have been the backbone of this side for years,imagine if they chopped and changed after every loss.

every few years they introduce one or two new faces and im sure cooper cronk will now become a fixture in the side in lockyers absence but very little else changes from year on year until someone retires,we need the same approach and making wholsale changes isnt going to help.

You named 2 young inexperienced leeds players to cover your clear anti leeds bias.

They've not had much 1st team action so you've not had chance to build up a hatred.

That's it! You're a wakefield fan aren't you??

I wouldn't disagree that brough must feel hard done to not to be selected. But he hasn't exactly stood up and performed in big games when it's needed has he?

Yeah and neither are wilkin and JJB!!

But then they play for bigger, more successful, teams.

Don't think hock is anywhere near the England team!!

Yes, as someone who has mentioned that Yeaman, who plays for my club, isn't good enough is unable to see beyond club colours. Then again, we can't really test the theory with regards to your bias as there was no reps from Wakefield out there tonight.

FFS!
Do you really believe that?

There are now almost two years before we play another meaningfully game as England, do you think Hardacre and Watkins might gain a little more experience in these two years.
On the other side of the coin do you believe that Peacock and JJB will be better players when they're two years older?

Not that it even comes into it, well not for me anyway but....
No Sherlock!
What gave it away? Was the avatar of a Wakefield shirt that accompanies all my posts.

I like Yeaman, I like Hull FC, and I don't think Yeaman has let anyone down in this series but he's limited and we need better.

I was happy to see Westwood and Ellis out there tonight, both products of Wakefield Trinity.

Talk about clutching at straws. Warrington, leeds and west tigers are the reason those players are as good as they are.

Not wakefield.

Of course they are cockle!

You're not fooling anyone, in fact I think thou doth protest too much.

correct

Fact is both are the products of Wakefield Trinity's Academy and in the case of Ellis he was a GB player before leaving Wakefield.

Be as pedantic as you like, you're wrong!

Westwood and Ellis would not be where they are now or half as good if they had stayed with wakey.

Let me see

Lee Mossop- dont make me laugh
Gareth Hock - mmmm no chance washed up sorry, what exactley did hock do last season to suggest he will ever be an international again, I ll tel ya NOWT
Sam Burgess - if hed been fit we all would want him in
Danny Brough - Im scottish oh no there can I now play for england no thankyou good kicker yes thats it !! ffs
Liam Farrel - Very sorry no way never not international class
Kallum Watkins - if he ever stays injury free maybe
Zac Hardaker - Time will tell no ready yet

Sorry my friend i dont think you would know what a good player looked like supporting wakey as you do !! now jog on !!

JJB has had a good overall series they all played poor this eveninf stop looking for scapegoats to fit your agenda

can't see what our problem is mate. just say it as it is. if you watched the games you would definitely know that jjb hasn't had that good a run. some of the things he did tonight were laughable. sinfield should be nowhere near the halves. his kicking game was pathetic. say what you want about brough , he is the best english 7 we have got with the best kicking game in the business. its no good talking about him playing for scotland when we have rangi in the team. thats an embarrassment to english rl. as for peacock ,should have definitely had the sense to have bowed out 2 years ago when he was at his best. the best players as you saw tonight know when the time is right to pack in international duties before they are made to look stupid like he was tonight. if mcnamara has any balls he would clear out the aforementioned names and as for you , most of what i have read from you is club based garbage.
i bid you goodnight.

can't see what our problem is mate. just say it as it is. if you watched the games you would definitely know that jjb hasn't had that good a run. some of the things he did tonight were laughable. sinfield should be nowhere near the halves. his kicking game was pathetic. say what you want about brough , he is the best english 7 we have got with the best kicking game in the business. its no good talking about him playing for scotland when we have rangi in the team. thats an embarrassment to english rl. as for peacock ,should have definitely had the sense to have bowed out 2 years ago when he was at his best. the best players as you saw tonight know when the time is right to pack in international duties before they are made to look stupid like he was tonight. if mcnamara has any balls he would clear out the aforementioned names and as for you , most of what i have read from you is club based garbage.
i bid you goodnight.

I'm pretty sure if Brough hadn't lost form in the second half of last season he would have been selected.

Would he have made a difference tonight?...maybe to the scoreline but not the result.

Until THE CLUBS give the national coach a bigger pool of players to choose from we will never catch up.