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| Quote ="Odemwingie"I want those clubs to raise their standards enough to be 'super'.
I am also aware that we need Salford in because all of the BBC is moving to Salford.'"
They've had the best part of 15 years, or over a hundred years depending who you listen to,to become super,what makes you think things are going to change now.
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| Quote ="Gronk!"Salford offer nothing to the league at all, no fans and can't compete in the league.'"
But a few years ago people were saying the same thing about Warrington and Huddersfield.
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| Quote ="Odemwingie"I want those clubs to raise their standards enough to be 'super'.
I am also aware that we need Salford in because all of the BBC is moving to Salford.'"
The O/P wasn't about what we want , it was about what we have now , and the relevance of Salford being a few miles closer to the BBC than Warrington or W1g4n is what exactly ?
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| Quote ="jonny the leyther"But a few years ago people were saying the same thing about Warrington and Huddersfield.'"
So a few years ago they would have dumped them , no problem , beside which Huddersfield still dont have many fans despite them being at/near the top
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| It is just impractical to have a league competition, comprised of 8 teams. Sorry. Anyone remember Division 2 in the mid-90s?
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| Quote ="RL13"It is just impractical to have a league competition, comprised of 8 teams. Sorry.'"
Why ? , We have to make do with a league of 11 , including Toulouse , Championship 1 makes do with 10 including Gateshead , Skolars and SWS
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| Quote ="Starbug"So a few years ago they would have dumped them , no problem , beside which Huddersfield still dont have many fans despite them being at/near the top'"
My point was that these two teams were poor a few years back pulling in poor crowds, not competing like Salford are now, and now Wire and Huddersfield are two of the best teams in the competition. Huddersfields crowds have doubled and Warrington have already outgrown their stadium. All i'm saying is you can't just write a team off because they're struggling at the moment.
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| Quote ="jonny the leyther"My point was that these two teams were poor a few years back pulling in poor crowds, not competing like Salford are now, and now Wire and Huddersfield are two of the best teams in the competition. Huddersfields crowds have doubled and Warrington have already outgrown their stadium. All i'm saying is you can't just write a team off because they're struggling at the moment.'"
Stick Oldham back in then
Yes Huddersfields crowds have doubled , from dire to poor
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| Quote ="Starbug"Why ?'"
Because it would mean that a team would have to play others team up to 4 times (5 or 6, if drawn in CC or Play-Offs) to constitute a meaningful fixture calendar - which, would produce fatigue amongst supporters, and devalue the games as a whole.
As a product, an elite competition featuring 8 teams would be too exclusive and centralised to the detriment as the sport as a whole. It wouldn't necessarily be marketable as a sport, to imply that 8 teams can "cut-it", as it were. It would make the sport seem more esoteric, and command less respect in the market place.
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| Quote ="RL13"Because it would mean that a team would have to play others team up to 4 times (5 or 6, if drawn in CC or Play-Offs) to constitute a meaningful fixture calendar - =#FF0000which, would produce fatigue amongst supporters, and devalue the games as a whole.As a product, an elite competition featuring 8 teams would be too exclusive and centralised to the detriment as the sport as a whole. It wouldn't necessarily be marketable as a sport, to imply that 8 teams can "cut-it", as it were. It would make the sport seem more esoteric, and command less respect in the market place.'"
Like it does in the Championships you mean ? , we played Salford 7 times in 2003 , and yet we put up with it
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| Quote ="Starbug"Stick Oldham back in then
Yes Huddersfields crowds have doubled , from dire to poor'"
Still better than most other clubs.
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| Quote ="RL13"Because it would mean that =#FF0000a team would have to play others team up to 4 times (5 or 6, if drawn in CC or Play-Offs) to constitute a meaningful fixture calendar - which, would produce fatigue amongst supporters, and devalue the games as a whole.
As a product, an elite competition featuring 8 teams would be too exclusive and centralised to the detriment as the sport as a whole. It wouldn't necessarily be marketable as a sport, to imply that 8 teams can "cut-it", as it were. It would make the sport seem more esoteric, and command less respect in the market place.'"
If you re read the O/P , they suggest a 14 match competition with represen tative games interspliced within the season , and clubs recieving more TV money than they currently do
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| Quote ="Starbug"Like it does in the Championships you mean ? , we played Salford 7 times in 2003 , and yet we put up with it'"
I don't agree with that, either. That's a ridiculous number of times - and although, this is meant impartially (though, probably not sounding like it), it is better that the top-tier doesn't succumb to such obstacles.
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| Quote ="jonny the leyther"Still better than most other clubs.'"
Which ones ? , Catalans ? , W1g4n ? , Saints ? , Hull ? , Leeds ? , Hull KR maybe ?
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| Quote ="Starbug"Which ones ? , Catalans ? , W1g4n ? , Saints ? , Hull ? , Leeds ? , Hull KR maybe ?'"
Wire and bulls as well
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| I didn't say Super League clubs.
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| Quote ="RL13"I don't agree with that, either. That's a ridiculous number of times - and although, this is meant impartially (though, probably not sounding like it), it is better that the top-tier doesn't succumb to such obstacles.'"
Fine , so they play each other twice and one MM weekend giving a 15 game season , and they all get 2.2 million from SKY , as the games would all be closer and clubs would have more British players the attendances at them would increase and everything would be tickety boo
Better prep for the International games and probably bigger crowds at the Challenge cup matches as well
I'd go for it , its a winner
SUPER DUPER league
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| Quote ="jonny the leyther"I didn't say Super League clubs.'"
But this is about SL , not the Championships
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| Quote ="Starbug"Fine , so they play each other twice and one MM weekend giving a 15 game season'"
As Derek from Spinal Tap once said, "That's a cozy ten minutes." How long will this season actually last? From March till June? Super League will need a jazz odyssey!
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| hilarious. warrington and wigan are now super after one and a half good seasons apiece.
as for the principal, eight is probably ambitious.
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| Quote ="RL13"As Derek from Spinal Tap once said, "That's a nice little set, isn't it, that's a cozy ten minutes." How long will this season actually last? From March till June? Super League will need a jazz odyssey!'"
Any fans wanting to watch more RL could attend Championship matches , lets not forget that fans of SDL clubs are more followers of the ' sport ' than their own team , aren't they ?
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| 10 team super league, with promotion and relagation! That means more SL standard players will have to play in championship and prob improve crowds and intrest.
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| Quote ="captaincaveman"hilarious. warrington and wigan are now super after one and a half good seasons apiece.
as for the principal, eight is probably ambitious.'"
Yes but we have to start somewhere
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| Quote ="DropGoalGiant"10 team super league, with=#FF0000 promotion and relagation! That means more SL standard players will have to play in championship and prob improve crowds and intrest.'"
Now , now , dont be silly
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| I would just have 4:
Wigan
Leeds
Warrington
Hull
Saints have dropped right off - lost a lot of fans ergo, not super any more. Yes, 4 would be smashing.
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