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| Quote ="kevl84"Gareth Hock gets a 2 year ban for testing positive for a non performance enhancing drug, yet senior gets a £1500 fine for the performance enhancing drug because he said it was used for an illness. Seems a bit weird to me.'"
You missed the bit about Hock's drug of choice being a class A illegal substance.
You also missed the bit about Senior declaring the cold medication he had taken to the testers prior to giving his sample, as Ryan Bailey did at the same time.
Other than that, well done on your accurate summary of the facts and attempt to defend your own player's inability to keep Colombian marching powder out of his enormous nostrils.
I'll leave the tery of drawing a direct comparison in terms of wrongdoing between taking Sudafed and taking cocaine, and the WADA guidelines on punishment for testing positive for each for someone else with more time and inclination to deal with.
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| Righto, best thing for any player who wishes to take performance enhancing drugs is to call it s cold medicine and declare it before being tested.
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| Quote ="Enicomb"Righto, best thing for any player who wishes to take performance enhancing drugs is to call it s cold medicine and declare it before being tested.'"
I can see how UK Sport would be fooled into thinking that someone had metabolytes of cocaine in their system through taking Buttercup Syrup.
No, really.
Is it the special needs day in the IT suite today?
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| I hope he comes back next season.
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| Quote ="Dead Man Walking"I hope he comes back next season.'"
Move to Widnes would be his best option of playing superleague next season. Can't see Leeds giving him a new deal.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"I can see how UK Sport would be fooled into thinking that someone had metabolytes of cocaine in their system through taking Buttercup Syrup.
No, really.
Is it the special needs day in the IT suite today?'"
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"You missed the bit about Hock's drug of choice being a class A illegal substance.
You also missed the bit about Senior declaring the cold medication he had taken to the testers prior to giving his sample, as Ryan Bailey did at the same time.
Other than that, well done on your accurate summary of the facts and attempt to defend your own player's inability to keep Colombian marching powder out of his enormous nostrils.
I'll leave the tery of drawing a direct comparison in terms of wrongdoing between taking Sudafed and taking cocaine, and the WADA guidelines on punishment for testing positive for each for someone else with more time and inclination to deal with.'"
He had Ephedrine in his system, we all know that people take this as a stand alone drug whilst training/playing sports to increase stamina, power and alertness.
I am sure he was taking it for a little cough he had, not as he thought he get away with it. It just so happened at the same time the RL greatly increased their testing regime!
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| Quote ="wakeytom"He had Ephedrine in his system, we all know that people take this as a stand alone drug whilst training/playing sports to increase stamina, power and alertness.
I am sure he was taking it for a little cough he had, not as he thought he get away with it. It just so happened at the same time the RL greatly increased their testing regime!'"
Brilliant. A modern day rugby legend possibly career ended and some haveto try and make him out to be a drug cheat. I assume you k ow all the inside details and that the drug was not actually from his medicine for cold?
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| Quote ="wakeytom"He had Ephedrine in his system, we all know that people take this as a stand alone drug whilst training/playing sports to increase stamina, power and alertness.
I am sure he was taking it for a little cough he had, not as he thought he get away with it. It just so happened at the same time the RL greatly increased their testing regime!'"
It is also the main component of MANY cough and cold remedies i believe it is the one that dries you up and stops your nose running
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"....i believe it is the one that dries you up and stops your nose running'" ...whilst the narcotic of Hocks choice has been know to make your nose run........or so I am told.
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| Re the thread...about time.
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| Quote ="Ferdy"Brilliant. [uA modern day rugby legend [/upossibly career ended and some haveto try and make him out to be a drug cheat. I assume you k ow all the inside details and that the drug was not actually from his medicine for cold?'"
thought this was a thread about Senior?
Legend??
Nope.
eBay legend maybe. League legend? I think not.
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| Quote ="Andy_Rhino"d040.gif
Of course he's a Legend, he has 4 Grand Final Winners Rings, World Club Champion, Challenge Cup Winner and has played in every Super league season'"
When you think 'legends' you think of people like Wally Lewis. Mal Meninga. Ellery Hanley. Jonathan Davies.
I feel almost embarrassed typing the name Keith Senior on the same post as those former players.
And I'm sure you mean 'had' 4 grandfinal winners rings. They are now owned by rl_fan54 who won them for £67.85 plus £3.99 p&p.
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| Quote ="PHIPPS"When you think 'legends' you think of people like Wally Lewis. Mal Meninga. Ellery Hanley. Jonathan Davies.
I feel almost embarrassed typing the name Keith Senior on the same post as those former players.
And I'm sure you mean 'had' 4 grandfinal winners rings. They are now owned by rl_fan54 who won them for £67.85 plus £3.99 p&p.'"
Jonathan effing Davies RL legend????????
Phipps come on, good player yes but legend and even being mentioned in the same breath as Lewis, Meninga and Hanley.
You're right though about Senior, in the last 10 years or so he's been good but most of that was based on being 12 foot tall, ugly and mean. It's a good job Ryan Hall is something of a student, cos he's continually having to use his well educated brain to suss out just exactly what Senior is going to do next.
Having said that, for the past 3 or 4 years Senior has been the best of a bad bunch (apart from Gleeson) at centre.
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