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| Quote ="Saddened!"Quote Wigan are not the only team to perform chicken wing tackles. But Wigan ARE the only club that coaches and actively encourages their players to be overly aggressive and deliberately use joints and pressure points, irrespective of the potential damage to the opposition player.'"
How do you define overly aggressive? We're not playing tiddly winks, rugby league is an aggressive sport and because wigan have decided to focus on defence they are targeted as being over aggressive? And why haven't more wigan players been banned for the so called use of pressure points and joints? I'd struggle for you to find a tackle where this has happened apart from the lima tackles which have been picked up upon. It is mainly fictional nonsense expressed by envious fans and coaches.
Quote They have trademarked attacking standing limbs or exposed joints and the chicken wing and ninja tackles. '"
What the hell is a ninja tackle? Chicken wing tackles haha funny how only lima has been banned for one of these this year then isn't it if they occur at wigan so regularly.
Quote Wigan under Maguire have been so desperate for success and acknowledgement that they brought in tactics no other club would ever consider using, purely because of their morality. '"
How can you bring any persons morals into question unless you personally know the person? You saddened actually prove that you are sad similar to your name. No other club would consider using them? Didn't nathan brown introduce these tactics into the game 2 years ago? Didn't a leeds player get banned for a chicken wing on james graham 2 years ago ? I think you prove that you are envious of success, after all you have lost the 4 grand finals. Maybe if you had included some good defensive tactics you would not be known as the grand final bottlers.
Quote Wigan however, you get the sense that they would do just about anything, whether it ended an opposition player's career or not. Their willingness to cheat has also extended into their poster boy Sam Tomkins who must spend all week trying out new ways to con penalties out of referees. His new pin the arm and crocodile spin is inventive it has to be said.'"
And sean long never milked penalties out of referees? It is up to the referee to wisen upto sams tricks isn't it? Again how you could say that wigan would aim to end an opposition players career is a joke and proves that you are an idiot.
Quote Super League is going to be better off without Maguire and hopefully it will mean the cheating and dirty tactics disappear rather than becoming commonplace.'" '"
So again I point out the fact that this is why the aussies are so far ahead of us, because we are unwilling to grasp new tactics and any time a new tactic is introduced we are quick to say we don't want that in our game. Well, if these new defensive tactics help us beat the Aussies we should use them! They are not outlawed within the game and personally I feel alot of them are fictional nonsense anyway!
Champions 2010! Maguire doesn't need words to shut the media and the likes of you up, he does his talking on the pitch and lets his coaching do the talking- Champions 2010!
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| Miss, Jeff Lima just threw his pencil at me but Michael told him to do it.
As numerous Wigan fans have said. If we're going out to deliberately hurt players then we're either really crap at it or it isn't our intention at all otherwise there would be a long list. Surely Jeff Lima would have ended someone's career by now if he was what people are saying he is??
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"wilkin got hurt by it, and spoke up before it happened again, and you lot pilloried him.'"
How long was he on the floor being treated or out injured?
Maybe we should just go back to the Newton style tackling, that would suit everyone I suppose!
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| There are certain 'teqnuiques' which are outlawed in the rules and rightly so, because they are dangerous. Chicken Wing being an example of that. Other examples would include a high tackle. Do you all suggest any team which commits a high tackle are accused of deliberatly trying to injure opponents?
Wigan's defensive tactics involve getting numbers into a tackle, all teams do that, they involve trying to slow the play the ball down by holding a player up to increase the length of time between contact and the tackle being deemed complete. All teams try to do that, just we do it better than most, Huddersfield are on a par.
To suggest an entire team takes to the field of play with the sole intention of injuring opponents is ludicrus. If a coach was really intent on doing this i doubt he would get one or two professional players onside never mind an entire team. Also if this was the case, as mentioned by others there would be a large number of serious injuries everytime Wigan take the field, this simply is not the case.
If/when a player does overstep the mark he will get penalised and banned as Lima has proved, however it is more a case of a player getting tackle wrong than premeditated intent.
I have seen a number of chicken wings, grapple tackles and other incidents on sky's televised games this year. Why is it that people are only interested in the couple of incidents ONE wigan player has done?
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| The only TRUE evidence of a SL coach threatening to instruct his players to intentionally injure/hurt opposition players has been Nathan Brown in his post match interviews.
Twice. Last season and a few weeks ago.
What action has been taken against this
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| No player has been injured due to these tactics which it is suggested may cause injury to players. Andy Wilson does confirm this in his article.
Lima's tackle on Soliola was bad and he got banned. Lima then got binned then banned for tackling the standing leg of a player who was running!
Too much is being made of all this, usually coaches who have just suffered a defeat by Wigan.
Wrestling techniques have been around for decades. When was the Cumberland Throw banned?
This is old news from Andy Wilson who seems to be doing to much recycling!
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| So wait, we have to actually wait for a player to have a serious injury by these tactics before we take note? That doesn't strike you as silly.
Anyway, regardless of this. I wish refs would start penalising Tomkins for his blatant cheating in the tackle. How many times is he going to hold a players arm so he cannot get away from the tackle. It's shocking.
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| Quote ="Spongolium"
Anyway, regardless of this. I wish refs would start penalising Tomkins for his blatant cheating in the tackle. How many times is he going to hold a players arm so he cannot get away from the tackle. It's shocking.'"
Tried it today and the ref was having none of it. He then decided to play rather than cheat and destroyed Trinity with his invention and evasive skills.
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| Quote ="Spongolium"So wait, we have to actually wait for a player to have a serious injury by these tactics before we take note? That doesn't strike you as silly.
Anyway, regardless of this. I wish refs would start penalising Tomkins for his blatant cheating in the tackle. How many times is he going to hold a players arm so he cannot get away from the tackle. It's shocking.'"
When referees start penalising players for putting their arm in there trying to knock the ball out. Swings and roundabouts.
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| Quote ="Wandering Warrior"When referees start penalising players for putting their arm in there trying to knock the ball out. Swings and roundabouts.'"
Lol this has to be the funniest homer post on rlfans. If you cannot see Sam pulling off this crap, then I feel sorry for you. It's a mockery of the game.
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