Under the circumstances it's up there silly person

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Give your team a bit of credit. Hull are garbage & you will probably beat better teams then Hull this year. One of your greatest wins ever last night? Really?

never mind, hope you are enjoying your 5 minutes in the limelight

Do you really think fans are going to wait all the way until 2012? If we don't buy season tickets, the club will die. It's one of those lose-lose situations where we don't want to hurt the club, but supporting them is giving the club a reason not to make changes.

I have a season pass, but I aren't going anymore until he's sacked. I think others are doing the same. Crowds are already down. The atmosphere is mundane.

If the board wait until 2012, I fear the worst for this club.

Says who ?

Or did you just make this up for the sake of it ?

It's a shame really.

Hull FC are definately one of the bigger names in Rugby league and the sport is popular in the city and the surrounding area.

Hope its resolved soon

From the vibes I am getting a lot of people in Hull are starting to take the approach of I CBA with you anymore. Three seasons ago they was a group of about 15 of us who used to go home and away together, last night they was just three of us left. By 60 minutes (with the game at 6-6) they was none. They was people leaving the ground with the game tied it was that dull and painful to watch.

The longer Agar is in charge the more people thinking like this will grow.

I don't think stuff is too rosy on the East Side of Hull either.

Its safe to say this years Hull derby at the KC will be the lowest attendance for one yet.

I think calling us garbage is bigging us up TBH

Can't believe you don't understand the context of this statement.

OK, so it's not the same as beating Wigan at Wembley in the early 60's.
Neither was beating Fev at McAlpine to gain promotion to Super League. Neither was beating Saints at Oakwell. Neither was beating Hull at KC in the 2004 playoffs.

Games are "great" in the era and context of the period of the day. With the side we currently have and our recent history off the field this victory was just as awe inspiring as many previous.

Lighten up man!

It's down to players , if they don't do their job then sack them, it happens in every other walk of life!!!.

Perhaps then they will realise you have to WORK to get results and not be drooping bottom lip prima donnas!!!

No it's not down to players. You have no idea whatsoever about the modern game.

Hope he gets an extension, main thing keeping us smiling on the East side of the city at the moment!

Ah so the game has NOTHING to do with the players AT ALL.

Thank you for enlightening me.

There I was thinking that RL was primarilly about what the players do on the pitch and it isn't.

Its about coloured toilet seats, burger vans, people watching the game, match officials, car parking, admission charges etc., etc..

I really appreciate that.

The players have nothing to to do with the game.

Money doesnt buy you success. Can spend 6 figures on out of form Cas players all you want, We have more kids up, Play for 1/6th of the wage. And play a lot better.

I just hope they keep employing Richard Agar, Even the points deducted clubs will be looking down on them soon.

Can we sign Briscoe off you

My God, you're still piping on about this one?

Tell you what, I'll go and coach Wigan for a year and we'll see how different the players perform. The way you sound, the coach doesn't even have a role to play!

Wigan 2009 - 5th under Noble
Wigan 2010 - 1st (champions) under Maguire with the same squad (except for Deacon).

Explain that one...

PLAYERS learn more and want to do more?

Whichever way you want to spin it it, it's down to the players.

If they don't want to, they won't and the best coach in the world will not make them.

Why would players not 'want to' perform? Do you think it's really as simple as when a bunch of players want to play well, they will? Do you really think the role of a coach is just to say 'come on lads, play well' and they will, and that is all it takes?

Every post you make is so far off the mark it's not funny. I don't understand how you can profess to watch the game and know so little.

You don't understand.

At Hull v Wakey the other night the players didn't WANT to play well thereby making Agar look even worse than he already is and therefore pushing him one step closer to being ousted.

You really ought to believe what you read on RLFans. It's always right.

Hull's attack is woeful, I agree. They let every team know what they are doing five yards before they get to the gameline. They need a major rethink.

Now do they players learn more on their own? Or because the coach is a better teacher? Or teachers them MORE things than the other coach?

There is some responsibility on the players obviously, yes. But only individually. If the entire team are doing poor, it's the responsibility of the coach. Players are responsible for themselves, not the team.

And your last line is also rubbish. If they don't want to, it's up to the coach to find out why they don't want to and correct the issue.

You talk about players "not wanting to perform", but you haven't given a reason why. Are you just suggesting that they can't be bothered?

I do not all togther blame Rich Agar, the problem is higher then him and in a lot of ways I feel quite sorry for him

Withot mentioning any names we have one person who dominaes the whole club and any coach has to be to an approved poodle standard. We have a procession of coaches, assistant coaches, conditioners and other assorted odds and sods leave the club in a hurry in recent years. Many of them have been at the club for years and had done notihing more then say, NO to the person concerned. John Kear is when this all started and since his "departure" things gave been on a downaward spiral.

I do not see any massive board changes in the offing and if this continues for any length of time people will drift away and break the habit. Once people break the habit ( I have already with the Friday night switch) then getting them back becomes very difficult and in the recession hit Britain this is doubly harder. Unless steps are taken high up to tackle the problem it will simply continue with the next person silly enought to take the job of coach on, neither Nobby or Macca are that stupid.

I can see by the end of the season crowds dwindling to 5k and pass sales for next season looking dire, quite simply they are killing the club. Its taken the faithful a long time to catch on, but they have finally caught up to reality and the clubs spin machine has been well and truly sussed out.

even he had a shocker on Friday night!

I find it staggering that Agar is still in charge tbf.

Hull have everything going for them off the pitch - good steady crowds/ground/history/income/youth set up, all in a City where RL has it's highest profile its had in quite a while. Whilst on the pitch it seems they've almost settled for second best, so long as the off the pitch performance remains strong.

He is probably as peed off with the whole situation as we are.