rugby league weekender!! who remembers that? i loved it, game previews including the prices and predictions. bring back L.E.W

League Weekly over League Express for me. Editorial of Danny Lockwood is far superior to that of Martin Sadler. Andy Wilson and Ian Millward are probably the two best columnists writing about rugby league at the moment.

Here in lay the difference. LE work in the basis of facts and direct contact with clubs via the close relationships they have developed with in the game over the last 20 years.

LW work on the basis of rumours from internet message forums

You can't judge LW by Nosey Parker. That's just a gossip column. I suppose you think people like Ray French, Andy Wilson and Ian Millward have no contact with clubs eh? And all the quotes they get from coaches, players, chief execs... are we to assume they've been made up? I'm no LW apologist - there's a lot they could do better - but I've never got this fawning over LE. It's a complete waste of money imo.

I bought a few LW's last year and Lockwood came out with some ropey stuff in the editorials. Certainly opinionated but borderline prejudiced.

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Tom Coates, League Express

Ooooooh...

I sent Bullman a PM asking him/her for ideas and suggestions about how we could improve League Express (all views welcome, by the way). I had a look through his/her previous posts after I sent it, and most of them seem to be either promoting or defending League Weekly and Game On magazine (which LW produced).

Do you think I'm on to something, or is this just a coincidence?

I have had a word with Steve prescott and it looks like Bullman and coatestf are booked in for the first contest at his next boxing tournie.

Hey quill pens still work don't they?

Those wonderful hand filled graphics for just one letter.

This technology thing will NEVER take off.

Can I wait til I find out who it actually is first!?

No that will be half the fun seeing your face light up or your bowels drop.

Well... if it's for a good cause...


Come on bullman, fess up and tell us who you really are!

Anyway, back on topic. How can League Express improve? We're always keen to get feedback from supporters.

publish on a tuesday with the OPTA stats in. that way all the match reviews of certainly the SL games will have more analysis rather than just reporting what we will have read on ceefax or in the sunday papers.


You will also have up to date injury news and information on who has been cited from the games. All of this would give us more than we get from all the other 24 hour media you are up against.

You can also preview the upcoming games in light of the last weekend results.

Like Tom, I would suggest that if you want to make silly comments about your rival publication, you should come out of the closet and reveal your identity.

Anyone can have views on a newspaper, and some of the comments on here we find very useful. League Express can speak for itself, of course, but I would go to great lengths to defend our designers in particular from your ridiculous assertions. Everything is capable of improvement, of course, bu within the time needed to put out League Express I think the quality of design is quite remarkable, even if I am blowing our own trumpet. And the amount of information we have to put together each Sunday is phenomenal.

But the one thing we will never do is go onto messageboards disguising our identity for the express purpose of trying to do down a rival. Unfortunately by making comments that are so over the top, you don't do yourself any favours.

Apologies to the other readers of this thread for pontificating once again.

I agree that moving the release of LE to Tuesday would be more practical and allow more time to write match reports,injury and team news,and gather more information etc but the downside would be that many of their regular readers would just pick up a copy of Weekly on the Monday instead and then not bother the following day with Express.

is it available online?

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Mine arrives Tuedsay except on Bank Hols and around Christmas

Living in the NE it is pot luck if i find either to read. so i get what i can find

For me though the important thing would be about the quality of what is in it rather than when it comes out. About 80 % of what i read in both RLE AND LW i have already read or seen in the Huddersfield Examiner, Gaurdian or Independent , boots and all the tries, Ceefax, or on here or the other forums

If i was reading something different along the lines of what i suggested i would be more likely to subscribe. things like analysis from an EX ref about the weekends reffing contoversies. To do that properly though you have to allow for a bit more time between the end of games and the issue.

Reading some of the weekly RL papers is a bit like reading the pink un or the green un on a saturday at 5.30 pm. Once i got ceefax they became obsolete. Unless the papers tell me something i did not know or challenge me in some way then there is no real incentive.

Just my personal view

I work for Asda and read both LE and LW on a Monday morning, when they arrive in store. Not too fussed about the match reports, but I enjoy the various editorials and columnists ......... and the letters pages are hilarious and an absolute joy; especially in LE, where the conspiracy theorists, and other assorted nutters, are able to "pontificate" at length.
The letters alone make it a "must read" paper.

Martyn, I'd definately agree with some other posters and suggest that LE takes on more opinion related columns. Not that I know anything at all about journalism but most news, whether it be rugby, soccer or politics, most people have read online before you guys go to print. Im personally more inclined to read opinion based articles on anything rather than something i've read the day before and hence I rarely pick up news related publications. I almost believe people want to be told what to believe, hence my 'the bloke in the pub said' theory. Its something, personally, I believe you should look into.

I'd also agree Ian Milwards column is pretty decent in LW and one of the better columns i see about, tbf I quite like Stevos in your print.

How about re-printing a random match report from say 10/12 years ago?People love a bit of nostalgia and it's nice to be reminded of some names from the game long forgotten.

I have to say the letters page is the most embarrassing part of LE.

It is like the worst posters on here putting their words into print. To be honest it makes the RL supporting demographic look embarrassing.

I'm pretty sure LE used to do a 'on this day' page, which was pretty good.

Incidentally I renewed my subscription for LE & RLW last week. Rugby League World has been really good recently.