Dally, you do realise that you're probably doing more harm for the cause than good by constantly having a dig and goading fans of lower league clubs, don't you?

Why can't you just talk about the good points of the story, rather than use it as a tool to wind other people up?

ill post as i see fit.

these people will never be convinced about the merits of the crusaders, theyll always be secretly hoping they fail

so ill stick my neck out and applaud what the RFLs done

when i read how the RFL has made the game a laughing stock because of wahts its done in wales, all i see is its made the right calls.

people very rarely change their minds of internet forums, if you havent worked that out yet, heaven help you

That's how it has always worked. Warrington have a couple of Welsh internationals in their junior ranks.

And having a London based SL hasn't stopped Londoners moving to northern clubs.

Club management in justifying club's existence shock!

Did you honestly expect a different answer?

It is but what about the TV money they get each year that isn't a loan?

A couple of youth teams don't justify it.

If Crusaders can't survive then it will have been wasted cash.

I cant understand why an australian wants to see the demise of 20 odd english RL clubs whilst seeing every rule in the book broken to protect a club 40 minutes from widnes and warrington.

yes thats my position. excellent argument

if the RFL stuck with thats how its always worked youd still be playing in winter with an average crowd of 3000

It's hardly a concern when a British RL player plays for a British RL club.

wakey, whitehaven, oldham have all received the same cash

wasted too?

c'mon no double standards then

you make it sound like the welsh like the english.

anyway prior to the crusaders entry into sl, how many welsh players were in SL? how many welsh juniors were with SL clubs?

No it's payment for the right to televise their games.

No, they haven't. Oldham haven't played in SL for a long time and Haven have never done so.



If Wakey go bust and don't return to the game even as a CC then yes the money recently given to them will have been wasted.

Whilst this is true, it is also true that some clubs' games are worth more than others and the smaller clubs are subsidised by the bigger ones.

And if they didn't keep ing money up the wall with hair brained notions then we'd be a lot better off. New ideas are fine, if they are good ideas but new ideas for the sake of new ideas is the kind of sheer stupidity that has held the game back for decades.

Prejudice and bigotry are no justification for a SL club in Wales or anywhere else.

so was the money wasted on oldham?

one of the cumbrian clubs had a stint in sl and went bust so it must be a waste there too?

great argument, nail on the head

well nail on your head

when maurice lindsay got 88 million pounds off sky how much went to clubs outside SL?

that many was p**ed away too so by your criteria the rfl shouldve stopped funding these clubs 20 years ago

no?

it wasnt an argument it was an observation after reading a number of your posts.

who will be your next target when wakefield have gone,cas,the giants,hkr ?.

cas, huuds and hull kr are fine, indeed they are growing clubs.

wakey have been given every chance by the rfl to succeed and cant or wont

i love how you guys make up these fairy stories.

So that would be John Dixon then , nice fella John spoke to him a couple of times over here , he would have been referring to the fact the the address for the Welsh RL development office was the same as the head office of Leighton Samuels company

But the funding would have come from the RFL , running it through the Celtic Crusaders just allowed them to circumvent the NL 2/1 salary cap on their way to SL by paying the majority of their players for doing development work

It could just as easily been done through 1 or 2 genuine NL/Championship clubs in the area

Sorry to burst YOUR bubble

nope it wasnt john dixon

yeah welsh kids will give up union to earn semi professional wages

Development officers don't set up amateur clubs , they get RL being played mostly in Schools , setting up and running junior/senior clubs is entirely different , that does require local support over a longer commitment , so yes it is good news that a new club has set up in north Wales , as I asked though , who are they going to play ?

That question has been answered earlier

I think you will find that money isn't the normal incentive to play any sport at junior level , apart from perhaps football

You answered one part of my post but not the other , that would suggest you once again don't know what you are talking about