Well here is Fartowns squad, I can only presume or at least what I would do.

Grix
McGillvary
Cudjoe
Gilmour
Hodgson
Brough
Brown
Robinson
Patrick
Mason
Fa'alongo O
Kirmond
ODonnell O

Crabtree
Lawrence
Lunt
Horne

All together, I think we look quite good, except at FB. Grix'll need to prove me wrong.

Any Fartown Fans can correct me on this.

IMO You should be all over Cameron Phelps. He would be great for you.

It's been mentioned several times on the board. We think so too.

I totally agree.

England just got walloped because Wigan have brought in 3 imports. They are to blame for all that is bad about the ESL.

Then again (just like you) i am talking out of my arris.

And here's me thinking that superleague 2011 is running with 5 overseas players only.

they will have to be something special to be even better they were last season!

As Roofaldo says, Bradford are rumoured to be signing another half. We certainly want one, whether there are any available/willing to come is another matter.

If not i'd expect Royston or Ah Van to get in at FB over Halley, and Halley will be out for the first few months of the season anyway.

I think if someone can keep Cameron Phelps fit he'd be a cracking signing for someone.

Totally agree.

Anyway next year Wigan are looking at:

Tomkins
Goulding/Marsh
Gleeson
Goulding/Marsh
Charnley
O'Loughlin
Deacon
Prescott
McIlorum
O'Carroll
J.Tomkins
Hansen
Farrell

Davies
Mossop
Tuson
Mellor/Hock

But then just to cover for injuries, we had to make sure we had Fielden, Coley, Carmont, Richards, Roberts, Finch, Lima, Hoffman, Leuluai etc, but seeing as they aren't from Wigan or it's academy it obviously wouldn't be fair for us to play them. After all nobody else does anything like that.

He's a Wakefield product though mate!

Does no-one understand how the quota system works?

The RFL usually!!!

But because he's under 21 we can claim him has home grown. I think.

The rules are a little sketchy tbh

Depends how long he's been at your club.

As I understand it to qualify as home-grown a player needs to spend 3 years at a club whilst under the age of 21.
However even if he didn't as he's British it doesn't really matter since he'd be classed as Federation Trained instead of home-grown anyway. It's only really the Overseas trained quota that matters.

As Tad pointed out Leeds are beginning a transition with the likes of Diskin and Donald going so the next 2/3 years will be interesting.

1. Webb (Overseas but doesn't count on quota)
2. Smith (Home Grown)
3. Delaney (Overseas)
4. Senior (Federation trained)
5. Hall (Home Grown)
6. McGuire (Home Grown)
7. Burrow (Home Grown)
8. Leuluai (Overseas but doesn't count on quota)
9. Buderus (Overseas)
10. Peacock (Federation)
11. JJB (Home Grown)
12. Lauitiiti (Overseas but doesn't count on quota)
13. Sinfield (Home Grown)

14. Bailey (Home Grown)
15. Cross (Overseas)
16. Ablett (Home Grown)
17. Burgess (Home Grown)

Plus Ambler (Home Grown/Federation), Amor (Federation), Kirke (Federation), McShane (Home Grown), Clarkson (Home Grown), Bush (Home Grown), Jones-Bishop (Home Grown), Watkins (Home Grown), Coady (Federation), Pitts (Federation), Hardaker (Federation).

I think there's only likely to be 1 more signing for 2011, hopefully a big second rower/prop as we'll be a bit weak there without Peacock to start with.

A couple too many overseas players for my liking in that squad but over the next 2/3 years a few will go and be replaced by British players hopefully. Jones-Bishop for Webb, Hardaker/Watkins for Delaney, Ambler/Amor/Pitts for Cross and Leuluai. Plus Lauitiiti and Buderus will be going as well. Hopefully a reduction down to around 4 overseas players would be preferable.

we he came to us at 17, so he WILL be classed as homegrown eventually.

i would say we are 2 players short of a very good 17.
Also from the players you have. Lawrence to start instead of Mcgiilivary. Darrell Griffin to start instead of Patrick and Patrick to the bench with Mcgilivary missing out.

For Leeds I'd go:

Webb
Smith
Delaney
Senior
Hall
Burrow
McGuire
Bailey
Buderus
Peacock
Jones-Buchanan
Ablett
Sinfield

Cross
Leuluai
Lauitiiti
Burgess

McShane
Kirke
Ambler
Clarkson
Pitts
Jones-Bishop
Watkins
Hood

very strong IMO but I like the fact some people are tipping us as low as 6-8

Also missing from list is Faiumu taking our overseas quota to at least 3

1. Luke Patten
2. Jodie Broughton
3. Mark Henry
4. Chirs Nero
5. Ashley Gibson
6. Dan Holdsworth
7. Matty Smith
8. Ray Cashmere
9. Tevita Leo Latu
10. Lee Jewitt
11. Vinnie Anderson
12. Luke Adamson
13. Stephen Wild

14. Stefan Ratchford
15. Phil Bailey
16. Adam Sidlow
17. Iafeta Paleaaesina

Sean Gleeson
Rob Parker
Adam Neal
Ryan Boyle
Gareth Owen
Jack Spencer
Ben Wood

Starting 17 looks strong, but a few injuries and we will struggle IMO

It'll be criminal if McGilvray isn't given a proper chance this season by Nathan Brown. He's got 'future international' written all over him. Lawrence is a decent player, but if we're talking wing positions I'd take McGilvray over him any day of the week.

Agree about Mcgilivary, I just dont see what everyone else does, hope he does come good though. Raleigh for Horne. Really happy with the squad, but i'd be happier with an established full back.

Maybe you're just fishing? But seriously, how do you come to that conclusion? Granted not all of them are world beaters, but they're better than many clubs imports....

Webster - International, GF winner, Tri-nations winner
Clinton - International, GF winner
Vella - SOO, International, Grand finalist
Dobson - AG medal winner, Dream Team last 2 seasons
Mason - SOO, International, GF winner, Clive Churchill winner
Newton - GF winner, Dream Team 2009
Galea - City Origin, GF winner, dreamteam 2009
Lovegrove - Probably our best prop last year despite not having a glittering CV
Fisher - Served us well, been with us since 2006 (apparently he's Scottish too

)
Green - The jury is out on him until we've seen how he gets on over here imo.

Most of them aren't exactly what you'd call crap, are they?

Yes they are.

Based on what exactly?