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| Quote ="Harrigan"No it wasnt.
Walkers shoulder hit Burgess bang on the Jaw. His head didnt get near Burgess.
That being said it was accidental. I like the big hit shoulder charge personally. When it is implemented properly it is an awesome sight. Any impact on the head should be penalised though.
Didnt Moz get banned in Aus in his 2nd season for hiting somone in the head with his shoulder?'"
That's what I thought at first but I've watched it tonight on tube of you and when I paused it at the impact it did look like there was a head clash.
It was accidental but it was also certainly reckless and an example of how not to do it.
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| shoulder charges are part of the game.
we dont wont to lesson the big impacts in the game and go down the RU route.
what do we ban next, hard tackles?
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| Quote ="dally messenger"shoulder charges are part of the game.
we dont wont to lesson the big impacts in the game and go down the RU route.
[uwhat do we ban next, hard tackles[/u?'"
steady on, that would render a lot of my home films illegal
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| Best thing about our game and what makes it stand out as the unquestionble tougest team sport in the world.
Geez some people are soft these days!
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| Quote ="Red Red Robin"That's what I thought at first but I've watched it tonight on tube of you and when I paused it at the impact it did look like there was a head clash.
It was accidental but it was also certainly reckless and an example of how not to do it.'"
Ive watched it a few times since and from that angle his head looks too high for the jaw. The main impact was the shoulder as you can see that plow into the bottom of his face. As I said though, accidental but like you said, reckless.
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| Only read the first post. Just want to say can't disagree more. It's part of the spectacle. Barely anyone gets injured from it. They banned it in Union. Three great reasons to keep it.
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| we watch the game for the skill of the players and the aggression and entertainment we dont want to turn it to union by taking a great part which is aggression out of the game
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| A lot of the collisions have already been coached out of the game in favour of lower impact techniques, presumably to reduce the number of missed tackles and to lessen the chances of injury. I'd have had no problem banning the shoulder charge in the past but it would be a serious loss now IMO.
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| just shows how clueless the Sky commentary team are they asking to eliminate this.
idiots.
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| Quote ="charlie"'"
Who has the ball there? If its the Cronulla player then the Manly player isnt even shoulder charging. Thats an elbow to the head and a totally different thing.
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Quote ="Harrigan"Who has the ball there? If its the Cronulla player then the Manly player isnt even shoulder charging. Thats an elbow to the head and a totally different thing.'"
to be honest it doesnt matter who has the ball the manly player is leading with the forearn/elbow to the head which makes it an illegal hit anyway
just like this on morley
www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqBZa1HLvQ8
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Quote ="Harrigan"Who has the ball there? If its the Cronulla player then the Manly player isnt even shoulder charging. Thats an elbow to the head and a totally different thing.'"
to be honest it doesnt matter who has the ball the manly player is leading with the forearn/elbow to the head which makes it an illegal hit anyway
just like this on morley
www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqBZa1HLvQ8
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| Quote ="charlie"'"
that wasnt a shoulder charge.
thats called a shooter tackle
also a shoulder charge involves the shoulder hence why its called a shoulder charge
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| Quote ="Harrigan"Who has the ball there? If its the Cronulla player then the Manly player isnt even shoulder charging. Thats an elbow to the head and a totally different thing.'"
hopoate on galloway
pretty much ended hoppas career and yes it was an elbow not a shoulder
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| google sonny bill williams shoulder charge video and tell me thats not part of RL.
sam burgess has pulled off some beauties as well
and little chris sandow puts on one a week, even on players double his size
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Quote ="jacko32"to be honest it doesnt matter who has the ball the manly player is leading with the forearn/elbow to the head which makes it an illegal hit anyway
just like this on morley
www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqBZa1HLvQ8'"
Never said it wasnt. Just wondering who had the ball.
That was bad by Cassidy. It actually brought back a lot of emotion just watching that again.
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Quote ="jacko32"to be honest it doesnt matter who has the ball the manly player is leading with the forearn/elbow to the head which makes it an illegal hit anyway
just like this on morley
www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqBZa1HLvQ8'"
Never said it wasnt. Just wondering who had the ball.
That was bad by Cassidy. It actually brought back a lot of emotion just watching that again.
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| Quote ="dally messenger"google sonny bill williams shoulder charge video and tell me thats not part of RL.
sam burgess has pulled off some beauties as well
and little chris sandow puts on one a week, even on players double his size'"
i said sonny earlier thats the best in the game shame he cant use it in union
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| Quote ="Harrigan"Who has the ball there? If its the Cronulla player then the Manly player isnt even shoulder charging. Thats an elbow to the head and a totally different thing.'"
The #14 had passed the ball, he didn't even see Hoppa coming. I don't even know what to class it as, it was shocking.
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| Simply put, NO, everyone loves a big shoulder to shoulder hit, sparks the team and crowd up and can change a game, lets not turn our game into Union and stop anyone putting a bit hit in. It may be dangerous, but the majority of our sport is, its part and parcel of the game!
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| Quote ="Harrigan"Never said it wasnt. Just wondering who had the ball.
That was bad by Cassidy. It actually brought back a lot of emotion just watching that again.'"
massive impact dont know what he was thinking
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| Quote ="jacko32"i said sonny earlier thats the best in the game shame he cant use it in union'"
thats RU for you
these are the same idiots that spend $1 million dollars a year on a good RL winger or centre, then only give him the ball once or twice a game.
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| Morley on Hansen is a good example. Shoulder dipped into the head. Point of impact is his head.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Morley on Hansen is a good example. Shoulder dipped into the head. Point of impact is his head.'"
Everyone praises it as a fantastic hit. I think differently, deliberatley targeting the head should be treated the same as a stiff arm or elbow.
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Couldn't have happened to a more deserving person.
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Couldn't have happened to a more deserving person.
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| Quote ="wigan_rlfc"Couldn't have happened to a more deserving person.'"
What a numpty you are. No person deserves to be elbowed in the face, especially at that force. I reckon you should go crawl back into the hole you came from.
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