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| Quote ="SmokeyTA"yet you seemed to think that having a good tv personality was a pre-requisite to be one of our utmost rl players, strange
He hasnt got a good tv personality because he isnt a tv personality, he is an RL player, it really doesnt matter'"
You're being ridiculously defensive.
I never said it was a prerequisite of a RL player to have a TV personality. But if you're going to be on TV as a guest (or invited to be on TV as some kind of pundit) you expect a bit of enthusiasm. The guy is supposed to give an impression of the sport. As a professional sportsman (and a captain and an international at that) he is going to deal with people and the media a lot.
He needs some media training if he's going to be in the media.
No doubt the people that think it doesn't matter if our players look good in the media are the same people that whinge that we're not in the media enough...
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| Quote ="tommy"It wasn't even a good script. When Leeds were short and knocked on, she did her tedious 'i'm watching it live' description, then when decision came up she was like 'Yes, just as we all thought, held up short, scrum to the defence' ...Well no, you might be missing something that happend to make it a scrum to the defence. The whole thing enraged me to be honest.'"
Exactly. It's pretty insulting that they try and pass something off as so obvious despite the fact they've shortened the clip down to cut out minutes of reviewing and on top of that they already know the result. Despite this, they've still managed to mess up in the past! I remember seeing the BBC give Stanley Gene a try last year after the video replay even though it got disallowed! It's just lazy.
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| Rob Burrow is great when he is on!
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| sorry but you are all missing the point.......
t'lovely Kevin Sinfield was on because he is a stunning bit of eye-candy and very pleased I was to see him looking gorgeous as ever too......
quite made my night.......
by t'way.....he will also be looking gorgeous at Old Tafford in October when he lifts that trophy again.......
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| Who was the female commentator ? Was it Tanya Arnold by any chance ?
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| i dont know why i bothered watching the rovers v leeds highlights all it was,was leeds leeds leeds leeds leeds rovers try leeds leeds leeds leeds rovers try leeds leeds leeds leeds leeds rovers try etc the way it was edited was as though leeds was the much better team with all the ball control total rubish
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| Quote ="hullkrforever"i dont know why i bothered watching the rovers v leeds highlights all it was,was leeds leeds leeds leeds leeds rovers try leeds leeds leeds leeds rovers try leeds leeds leeds leeds leeds rovers try etc the way it was edited was as though leeds was the much better team with all the ball control total rubish'"
That comes with success, it would be all Rovers if they'd won 3 titles in a row. We warrant it.
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| Quote ="Leaguefan"When is he transferring to Wigan then?
Missed an earlier post'"
And who are Wigan playing in the Challenge Cup??
Ok
Yet again Leeds win a game they have to and as always they will peak at the correct time Leeds are the masters of that.
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| Who really cares? Hes a rugby player first and foremost. Plus, when it matters, ie when being interviewed after winning the grand final he always comes across as a smashing bloke with lots of interesting things to say.
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| Quote ="Abbott Out"That comes with success, it would be all Rovers if they'd won 3 titles in a row. We warrant it.'"
So you warrant still been the BBC's darlings even after been totally outplayed? Strange.
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| Quote ="Yabba"And who are Wigan playing in the Challenge Cup??
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Yet again Leeds win a game they have to and as always they will peak at the correct time Leeds are the masters of that.'"
I've got my south stand intelligence head on today so you will have to explain your post!!!
I can't relate Wigan playing in the challenge cup to winning 4 grand finals!
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| What's strange is that even in victory Rovers fans seem to find more things to moan about than celebrate - if it's not Leeds being the only team in the league to ever throw a forward pass it's Sinfield buying his defence some time by clarifying a decision or the quality of the BBC coverage of the game.
I know life is miserable in East Hull, so I'd have expected you to grab these little rays of sunlight and hold onto them as long as you can.
Still, at least this thread hasn't turned into an incestuous East Yorkshire bitchfight yet...
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| Quote ="Yabba"And who are Wigan playing in the Challenge Cup??
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Yet again Leeds win a game they have to and as always they will peak at the correct time Leeds are the masters of that.'"
Yes, Leeds are the masters of peaking at the right time in the Challenge Cup.
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| Can I just say I'm quite disappointed with people's choice of response to this thread. Leeds fans seem to take it as a chance to be totally defensive about one of their players and get up high on their pedestals. This isn't about Leeds. This is about a player giving off a very poor image in the media. I know some rugby players aren't personalities, etc. That's fair enough. But some are, and some come across very well in the media. These are the people that we should be getting on the TV. I've seen Sinfield interviewed in the past, and he usually isn't too bad, but Sunday it just seemed like he didn't want to be there. It was really disappointing, and I felt a bit sorry for Harry who just couldn't seem to get a decent response from him.
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"This is about a player giving off a very poor image in the media. '"
There have been plenty of players over the course of the SL Show that have been incapable of stringing a sentence together, yet only one has been singled out for criticism on this thread. Why is that?
If you didn't want it to turn into a discussion about one particular player, why make it one?
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"There have been plenty of players over the course of the SL Show that have been incapable of stringing a sentence together, yet only one has been singled out for criticism on this thread. Why is that?
If you didn't want it to turn into a discussion about one particular player, why make it one?'"
Cos it's Sinfield.
Oh, and there's a difference between clarifying the odd decision with a ref, and hassling him after every bloody decision against that player's team.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"There have been plenty of players over the course of the SL Show that have been incapable of stringing a sentence together, yet only one has been singled out for criticism on this thread. Why is that?
If you didn't want it to turn into a discussion about one particular player, why make it one?'"
Where did I say this? I said this wasn't a discussion about Leeds. And it isn't.
This is about one particular person. The only reason it is about one particular person is because he is the one I happened to be watching at the time. I don't watch the SLS every week, but I did this week and Sinfield was awful. I have much respect for Sinfield as a player. But on the TV he was awful. If one of SL's star players is going to be on TV a lot then he maybe should be trained in this department. Being a rugby player isn't an excuse to be crap on TV.
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| He looked really really bad! Almost hungover, sick of seeing the same guests on the show. At least John Kear has a good opinion on the topic of the day.
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| What a difference a week makes. Thought Kevin was charming today.
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| Quote ="pattiecake"What a difference a week makes. Thought Kevin was charming today.'"
Same. I've just watched it now and he was much much better. Seemed interested, contributed well to discussion and was very analytical. I dunno what made the difference. Was it because he was the solo guest this time? Or was it because Leeds won this week?
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"Same. I've just watched it now and he was much much better. Seemed interested, contributed well to discussion and was very analytical. I dunno what made the difference. Was it because he was the solo guest this time? Or was it because Leeds won this week?'"
Or is that you are just a knee jerk reactionist?
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Or is that you are just a knee jerk reactionist?'"
Not really. He was woeful last week. It would have been better if he wasn't there.
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"How boring is Kevin Sinfield?! He looks like he doesn't want to be on the SL Show tonight. Hasn't cracked a smile. Mumbling. Quiet. Unenthusiastic. Pretty short answers. He looks like he could just fall asleep any second. Why have him on?! He doesn't exactly paint a very good picture with his answers and just makes the show dull.'"
He still has more charm and charisma in his little finger than Agar has in his whole body.
Sinfield is one of the most talented players in SL, I don't know why you feel the need to bad mouth him.
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| Quote ="joburg"He still has more charm and charisma in his little finger than Agar has in his whole body.
Sinfield is one of the most talented players in SL, I don't know why you feel the need to bad mouth him.'"
I made a comment about his media skills on one particular day. They were shocking. Most people are agreeing. Those that aren't agreeing are defending him as a player (which isn't exactly disagreeing) and it is totally against the point I'm making.
I have not made one negative comment on this thread about his playing skills because I respect him as a player (in fact, I have said that in this thread). Why you feel the need to bring Agar into this I haven't a clue?
Why can't people actually discuss the point being made on this forum?
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"
Why can't people actually discuss the point being made on this forum?'"
Is there one?
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