hmm noo, The idea of bringing a player through your academy system makes them your junior.
Where you played amateur rugby at 11 years old makes diddly squat

2/10 very poor efffort, must try harder.

Tigers equiv of Quins? Quins won a premiership in the last few years?

Not taking anything away from Ellis, but...

Only one player per club was to be picked. Captiains and Vice Captains of NZ and Aus were picked automatically.

Therefore:
Marshall who would have been the tigers fan pick was an automatic inclusion
Farah who would have polled second didnt really have a chance as his position hooker was taken by australian vice captain Cameron smith
Ellis is your tigers Bradbury. But I am happy for him to make the squad, bringing more of international feel to the game.

Smith , then all these will have helped him develop as a player along with his parents , family , fellow players and any coaches he has played under

All these people along with Gareth himself are responsible for his success

To try to pick out any single one is totally stupid , it is a collective of his life so far that has made him the person and the player he is

Well done Gareth

Charming.

If he wants to behave like an Are sole , then he should expect to be reffered to as an are sole , simple really

thats wakey in SL!

read the thread. wakey fans were claiming him as their own and praising their club

saying hes one of their own is as accurate as saying theyll get a new ground anytime soon

ie its not accurate (some of you guys are too thick to understand irony so ill put in subtitles to help you)

rights to claim Gareth Ellis as a product of thier club

Yes he has had many other influences that has made him the player he is , but he is a product of the Wakefield academy , he played there in his most formative years

its a small part of his career

Nailed it right on the head .
Well done Gaz

Dally. Roosters half, Mitchell Pearce.

Who's he a product of?

Hindy, I was just talking off the top of my head, West Tigers are a mid table club at best and had that one memorable year in 2005 where a lot of things fell their way and they became the most unexpected winners in about 2 life times.
In 10 years they have made the finals just once 2005 where they came 4th.
I agree with the comments you make regarding Ellis selection, it was him Tuiaki or an unknown.

his dad junior and his mum

hoho,

but what's the answer?

You don't expect Dally to answer where hard facts are concerned



Ellis has spent more time attached to the Wakefield club than any other and as such they deserve the greater pat on the back - the idea that Wakey stole him for Cas is not quite correct - nothing new there from dally - Cas did not make him an offer as Raper - another useless Aussie thankfully departed from our game - was not interested in youth development. So if Wakey had not picked him up he could have been lost to the game.

For Wigan maybe, but not in the eyes of most Cas fans, saved us from almost certain relegation and then took us to within 80 mins of a Grand Final appearance.

Taken from Wikipedia:-

he played his juniors for a balmain junior club

then went to norths

and then went to easts

if so balmain junior first id say.

For junior development; which is the life blood of any club - you only have to look at the benefits the Rhinos have gained from a coherent youth development programs - he was a disaster.

The long term implications of Raper's time at Cas was relegation?

At Wigan the team really under performed and given he is now plying his trade as a TV pundit that would suggest his coaching credentials are dubious at best - having said that I would still rather have him the McRae; the triumph of front over substance

=#8040FFHe might have "saved" the club but he told Ellis he was TOO SMALL and would NEVER make it as an RL player...good call Stu

He never played for Cas at any level.

Amature clubs in the UK are not affiliated to senior clubs, there is no such thing as a "Junior" club. Some clubs have an historical connection that is all. Stanley Rangers from Wakeefield have produced as many players for Cas as Wakey.

He grew up in Selby.

Castleford is a suburb of Wakey.

Richard Owen born 25 November 1991 in Pontefract, Yorkshire, England is a rugby league player for the Castleford Tigers in the European Super League, he also played for Oulton Raiders in his youth. So who created this lad, Leeds, Wakefield or Cas?



How clueless are you, get your facts straight at least try to troll well.

Incorrect. He's a Marist College North Shore boy. And despite hm playing for one season in the Balmain Leagues his junior club is Asquiths (like Kieron and Liam Foran). A North Sydney District Club. He played for Norths in the juniors too before the Roosters offered him a spot.

Point is, he did play at all these clubs, so who can say they developed him?

maybe cas lock lane should just change their name to wakey lock lane.

im so disappointed he left the working class to go to such a snobby school.

junior should know better.

my answer to your question is all the clubs contributed, but clearly norths contributed the most there didnt they.

so :

cas junior club > wakey juniors > ??? > leeds rhinos > wests tigers.

had he not played for leeds or a big SL club would the tigers have bothered?

indeed how much can the wests tigers lay credit to for improving him?

or are we going to say adrian morley is such a good player from salford?