Players Out - Players In
Gareth Ellis - Robbie Farah
Dave Taylor - Sam Burgess
Alan Tongue - Dave Shillington
Greg Inglis - Beau Champion
Daine Laurie - Greg Bird

So, Burgess gets in without been on the voting but i'm sure most people would of voted for him anyway, Issac Luke would of come in but Farah and Smith are already in at hooker.
NRL team will win IMO especially now Inglis is out, Greg Bird has come in and will play in the forwards as they already have Thurston, Prince, Soward but i can only see the NRL team winning. Should be a good game though.

While I hope this is a great game, which it will be, I am concerned that if it becomes an annual event it may detract from the superb record of indigenous athletes in playing for Australia at rugby league...

In my view, we still want young Aboriginal athletes aspiring to play for the Kangaroos, to continue our unsurpassed record with A&TSI representation at national level.

Rugby league makes other sports, like cricket and union, look sickly in that regard.

www.smh.com.au/rugby-union/union ... -npty.html This article also tends to repeat precisely what I said in the post above. Additional note - 8 of the 11 Wallabies mentioned have rugby league backgrounds. If Australian union was a type of bread, it would be wallpaper paste white. With no extra vitamins added.

www.smh.com.au/rugby-union/union ... -npty.html This article also tends to repeat precisely what I said in the post above. Additional note - 8 of the 11 Wallabies mentioned have rugby league backgrounds. If Australian union was a type of bread, it would be wallpaper paste white. With no extra vitamins added.

Not surprising given the traditional eco-social status that the two games have traditionally drawn from.

Nice justification for institutional racism.

No just reality, as un PC as that is sometimes.

Yeah the reality and the evidence clearly show something is rotten in Denmark with union in this regard.

By all means you support it though.

What that says about you is worrying...

You're right, its borderline institutionalised racism.

3 players of Aboriginal or TI descent in Super 14 and two of those came from Rugby League.

Vs

11% of NRL players of Aboriginal or TI descent.

And it has nothing to do with the school system, even though Aboriginals are scarcer than rocking horse manure in Union schools. I played for Liverpool City on the weekends in the 1970's and it was basically walk-up and you played.

Come to think of it, there was only white kids playing in that team and the opposition teams.

It seems that South African Rugby Union isn't alone...

EA,

I think you are being generous with your inclusion of the word "borderline".

We of course also have a far better record than soccer and RU in England on this score (ie. racial inclusion).

A black man, the wonderful Clive Sullivan, captained the GB rugby league team in the 1972 World Cup (and helped win the Final - on countback! - in the end with his cracking try). Jason Robinson only did the same for English union within the last 5 years or so.

Where did Billy Whiz come from?

(Hint for rah rahs - grab the 1995 RL Challenge Cup Final for a look sometime)

Much the same out here methinks.

I guess George Gregan was just a white man blacked up? How many Polynesian descent players are there in S14? Surely if it was a racist sport they wouldn't have had a coloured capt for all those years and they wouldn't be letting islanders play the game? Sometimes the BS on here to have a dig at another code is like being back in the school playground (and I hate RU~!)

Quote ="Gijou"EA, I think you are being generous with your inclusion of the word "borderline". We of course also have a far better record than soccer and RU in England on this score (ie. racial inclusion). A black man, the wonderful Clive Sullivan, captained the GB rugby league team in the 1972 World Cup (and helped win the Final - on countback! - in the end with his cracking try). Jason Robinson only did the same for English union within the last 5 years or so. posting.php?mode=quote&f=62&p=14909955# Where did Billy Whiz come from? (Hint for rah rahs - grab the 1995 RL Challenge Cup Final for a look sometime)'" Didn't Jeremy Guscott play Yawnion for England before Robinson

Quote ="Gijou"EA, I think you are being generous with your inclusion of the word "borderline". We of course also have a far better record than soccer and RU in England on this score (ie. racial inclusion). A black man, the wonderful Clive Sullivan, captained the GB rugby league team in the 1972 World Cup (and helped win the Final - on countback! - in the end with his cracking try). Jason Robinson only did the same for English union within the last 5 years or so. posting.php?mode=quote&f=62&p=14909955# Where did Billy Whiz come from? (Hint for rah rahs - grab the 1995 RL Challenge Cup Final for a look sometime)'" Didn't Jeremy Guscott play Yawnion for England before Robinson

A good 10 years before. about 1990 i think and Robinson was a couple of years before we won the 2003 WC (2000-01)

Yeah, that's probably it and that one player proves that Aboriginal and PI players are embraced by Rugby Union in Australia, because George Gregan played for Australia.

<sarcasm>Even though George was born in Zambia, your sentence isn't stupid.</sarcasm>



We're talking about Aboriginal or TI players and you're barking about George Gregan and PI players.

Moron.

Is there anything discussed here that you have any idea about?

Anything?

Nice try morons. The post was about captaincy.

Please point out in which union Tests Guscott captained England...

Ummm.....

If only Gregan was A or TSI you might have a point.

Oh...you don't?

Wow. Knock me down with the feather duster.

Why don't you read my posts again before chiming in with nothing?

Gee these threads are great for bringing out the rah rah sympathisers.

Shame they've got nothing between them.

The first Aboriginal to play Rugby Union for Australia was a bloke named Lloyd McDermott, in the 1960's. There are only 7 to have played Rugby Union for Australia, ever. Embarrassing. But if you ask the ARU, they will probably claim 40 or 50. They have a habit of re-writing history. On page 6 of the following they claim about Mark Ella... aru.rugby.com.au/verve/_resource ... a_Bros.pdf "In 1980 he played in his first test for Australia and up to 1984 played a total of twenty-five tests, ten as captain, [size=150becoming the first Aboriginal in any sport to captain Australia.[/size" According to Rugby Union, Arthur Beetson never existed.

The first Aboriginal to play Rugby Union for Australia was a bloke named Lloyd McDermott, in the 1960's. There are only 7 to have played Rugby Union for Australia, ever. Embarrassing. But if you ask the ARU, they will probably claim 40 or 50. They have a habit of re-writing history. On page 6 of the following they claim about Mark Ella... aru.rugby.com.au/verve/_resource ... a_Bros.pdf "In 1980 he played in his first test for Australia and up to 1984 played a total of twenty-five tests, ten as captain, [size=150becoming the first Aboriginal in any sport to captain Australia.[/size" According to Rugby Union, Arthur Beetson never existed.

Quote ="EA"The first Aboriginal to play Rugby Union for Australia was a bloke named Lloyd McDermott, in the 1960's. There are only 7 to have played Rugby Union for Australia, ever. Embarrassing. But if you ask the ARU, they will probably claim 40 or 50. They have a habit of re-writing history. On page 6 of the following they claim about Mark Ella... aru.rugby.com.au/verve/_resource ... a_Bros.pdf "In 1980 he played in his first test for Australia and up to 1984 played a total of twenty-five tests, ten as captain, [size=150becoming the first Aboriginal in any sport to captain Australia.[/size" According to Rugby Union, Arthur Beetson never existed.'" The biggest revisionists in Australian sport. No doubt. If you have any doubt, read something by Peter Jenkins some time. Australian Union = white bread Something to be very proud of...Not. You standing for the anthem, Serge?

Quote ="EA"The first Aboriginal to play Rugby Union for Australia was a bloke named Lloyd McDermott, in the 1960's. There are only 7 to have played Rugby Union for Australia, ever. Embarrassing. But if you ask the ARU, they will probably claim 40 or 50. They have a habit of re-writing history. On page 6 of the following they claim about Mark Ella... aru.rugby.com.au/verve/_resource ... a_Bros.pdf "In 1980 he played in his first test for Australia and up to 1984 played a total of twenty-five tests, ten as captain, [size=150becoming the first Aboriginal in any sport to captain Australia.[/size" According to Rugby Union, Arthur Beetson never existed.'" The biggest revisionists in Australian sport. No doubt. If you have any doubt, read something by Peter Jenkins some time. Australian Union = white bread Something to be very proud of...Not. You standing for the anthem, Serge?

Wouldn't have a clue if he captained England. To think, you know more about Union than us. Dally, are we now meant to set fire to this geezer as a result?



Didn't read your post properly. Will endeavour to do so in future.

As for moron. Showing your intelligence somewhat, well done.

Good. You do that...

Read some Sun Tzu sometime and the first bit will start to make more sense to your little brain.

oh dear, name calling and insults. Tut tut.

Why dont you look and see who i replied to in the first place because it wasn't you.

Billy Slater is the latest player to pull out of the game through injury.