thought big eorl was superb today along with burgess and sinfield, for me its about time the 2 old plodders in morley and peacock called it a day at this level, what crabtree and burgess added were mobility and great offloads in eorls case i forone never doubted eorls ability to step upto this level.

Sums it up for me.

He is related to Big Daddy you know.

Thought Eorl had a big game today, he offers that bit more than other English forwards. A great offload and the tying up of several defenders. Thought Ellis was the pick of the forwards, especially when he was operating out wide on the right hand side. As for Burgess great in patches and a real handfull. Just needs to cut down on the errors and silly penalties. There is hope for next week ?

I hardly get to watch SL and had never seen Crabtree play before.

Whilst everyone was going on about Burgess, who appears to have knocked on about 4-5 times in the last two games, I thought it was Crabtree of the two who made more of an impact when they both came on together. Yes Burgess had some big hits, yes he scored a try from 6 out, but Crabtree would have got my vote for consistency and penetration (ooeer).

And that kid who went on at right centre, eastmond? He gave some spark in attack late on, defence would be a concern mind.

only watched 2nd half. he looked good, bent our line back on occasion

Did Morley play today?

great game by eorl, if we are struggling in the centres again we can stick him there, played under smith at hudds as a centre and never let anybody down

Big Daddy Eorl stepped up to the plate today. Awesome performance from the big man. Same again next week lad.

To be honest i have never rated him. Until Today!

Him and Burgess absolutely showed Peacock and Morley up in terms of aggression, go forward and pride. Well done to him, definately deserves his place v Kiwi's.

I Always knew he had it in him. He just needed to be more agressive. He is too much of a gentle giant. When he has the fire in his belly there is no better impact prop in the league IMO.

They need to make him angry IMO. Physically he's better than the Aussies, we just need to provide the motivation.

Well he certainly made me eat my own words today. When i saw the team i actually said 'what the hell are crabtree and westwood doing in an england shirt' but i was definately proved wrong. Westwood had a very good game but Crabtree was immense IMO

Yes !

I had to read the newspapers teamsheets too. I actually thought he hadn't played.

JP was very poor as well.

Pleasently surprised by Crabtree, Graham and Westwood.

Can imagine him chasing back after Junio Sau and players like that



See what you are saying mate, but keep him in the pack, he was very good yesterday.

Morley and Peacock have been outstanding players for GB and England over the last 10 years but maybe they don't have the belief they can beat Australia after so many defeats... the younger generation don't seem to have that fear

It's a big call but what about this for the next game

4 rotating props in Carvell, Graham, Burgess & Crabtree

Second Row - Ellis & Westwood

Loose Sinfield

Morley & JP have both been in GB sides that have beaten the Aussies and JP has been on the losing side many times when he has been the only one giving it his all. So it's a bit harsh to dump them on the back of one anonymous performance.

I see your point though and if they were unavailable, that side could possibly compete. I don't know why Sinfield is playing anything apart from LF in the first place.

He played very well and looked very dangerous. I'd start him next week as the game was lost by the time him, Eastmond and Burgess got on the field.

Pleased he got a shot and took it as I've always rated him as something out of the norm for a forward.

Fully agree. I said much the same in another thread, thankfully big Eorl made me eat my words yesterday.

He'll need to step up another level (as they all will) to match a fired-up NZ pack.

Eorl is an impact player. he never looks as good when he starts a game for the Giants as when he comes off the bench.

Same is true of ROBY IMHO . he should never start a game should be an interchange hooker.

Tremendous performance from Crabtree, some great carries and offloads to get us on the front foot.

Peacock never performs well as Second Row IMO.

I agree with most comments on here ive never really rated Crabtree and though it was a bad decision to include him but he certainly changed my opinion.

Like most on here never really rated Crabtree as I thought he never played his weight. He did yesterday and was excellent.
He was able to step up his performance from club to International level something a lot our players recently have failed to do.
A certainty for England for next week.
If the Kiwis think they are big lads wait 'till they see Crabtree!

crabtree had a good game - didnt look out of place and should certainly be in the team next week !!!

Been playing like that for the past couple of seasons really