Dico beleive me I am not a whinger ( maybe I have come accross as one but I am not )
It is a serious point that along with the good and the bad refs we have refs that are blatant cheats. Not only is it wrong on all levels it can at times be dangerous when 10/11/12/13/14 year olds are taking each others heads off and the ref is laughing with them when they get up out of the tackle. Only to send the first opposition player off who does this. I have seen this kind of reffing 3 times this season out of around 20 games watched from 10's to 14's, not all my kids or all my club. Surely we aren't that desperate for refs are we?

If you are unhappy with the ref, report the performance to the loacl referees society - they will sort it out. However, if this is a schools game, it is likely that it could be a pupil who has done the short course for teachers that reffed the game due to many society ref's being at work during school hours.

I ref locally and have never done schools for this reason. I like to think I fit into category 1 - but 2 is subjective and every official is capable of having a bad game due to whatever reasons.

I am going speak to parents from some of the other teams and if they confirm that they have had issues with the same refs at the same clubs then I will email the refs society. It is very difficult as I would imagine they will take the refs side and put it down to inexperience.
Would the society send an assesor to watch them?
The bulk of the adult refs fall into category 1 and 2, with the bulk of them being very good, speaking to the kids to explain the decisions and generally clamping down on violent behaviour, the issues arise with the 15ish year old kids who are reffing there own clubs, as they know the coaches and the kids very well.

My son is 14 and a qualified referee. I can only speak about his refs society but they do not allow any junior refs to referee any clubs they are in anyway associated with, although to be honest i don't think any of the junior refs in his society play for a local team as well as ref. Either way it just doesn't happen.

The refs society would also without doubt send a senior ref to check his performance if they received any complaints.

If you can provide actual games where such biased refereeing took place you could start by complaining to the local refs society to try to get them to change their rules regarding which teams junior refs can be appointed to, but if you get no luck there is a chain of command you can work your way up. In fact if you want to start at the top i don't think its too difficult to find an e mail address for Stuart Cummings.

ahh now why didn't you say this in the first place?
The contents fairly similar but in the original post you imo came accross as another whinging parent who's kids team just weren't good enough.
Its definately wrong for junior referees to take control of a game with a club they're associated with, especially if they aren't properly qualified/trained.

Thanks for a great post, I will email the head of the refs society.
I think that the way to solve the issue is to not let kids ref games at clubs they belong to. This is not the case with our local society although I will request that they look at that.
My youngest has ambition to ref in a couple of years and I will not let him ref his playing club when he qualifies.

This is the point I was trying to get accross, believe me my kids will not end up as anything other than recreational players, they will never win the top divisions with the teams they play in.
All I ever want is a fair game played out in the true spirit of rugby league.

You still have not answered the main point:

If this lad, no matter what his experience or qualifications, didn't referee the game, who would have refereed it?

Are you sure it is just a physical and not a mental disability that is preventing you making some contribution? Because to put it quite simply, I think you are fooking barking mad

Oh hold on everyone, this idiots is disabled so we're supposed to give this idiot a free pass on her stupid idiotic ideas.


Do everyone a favour. Next time you want to wheel the kids to a game of rugby, go over to the soccer fields instead. I'm sure the two gutless whingers you are bringing up will love playing a bit of fairy ball, they will be able to whing about the referee and cry like little b*tches any time someone comes within ten feet of them.

Oh, but I'm not supposed to say that because you're in a wheel chair.

Well, I don't give a sh*t!

Thats bad taste freaky

Oh don't say that.....I'm thirsty you see.....




If she wants to come onto a forum and talk complete sh*t, then try and play the sympathy card, we'll she played it with the wrong person.


If she was on life support it wouldnt stop her being an idiot!

How did your parents die Freaky?

In a fire.

Well, I don't give a sh*t!



Not nice is it di[ickh[/iead?

Why would I care what some dope from England thinks?


Really, you rate yourself way to highly. Like the stupid idiot with the whinging gutless kids.

boring same old tiresome witless banter.

You are boring the children.

boring same old tiresome witless banter.

You don't understand what I am saying.
Some kids who ref ( not all ) are also players at a club, when they ref that clubs younger team they are incapable of being impartial and will cheat to ensure that the club they play for wins. People are capable of all sorts of things in life watch the news so cheating in a game is only minor.

To answer your question who would ref that game? You must be barking mad read the thread.

Team a plays team b and team c plays team d all on the same day, ref one plays for team a at an older age and ref 2 plays for team c at an older age. What happens were we are is that ref 1 refs team a v b and ref 2 refs team c v d.

My suggestion is to swap the refs so neither is reffing the club they play for. Not mad simple.

Who mentioned a wheel chair. The diasbility that stops me reffing could be 100% perfect vision for all you know

Doesn't bother me.

I have come accross many people in life like this person.

He is the sort of person who drives through a puddle deliberately to soak pensioners, then goes home all pumped up, gets undressed stands in front of a full length mirror kissing his biceps, shouting whos the man, while cracking one off into an old sock.

The best thing about him is that he is too thick/incensed/stupid to see what I am saying.

Oh Im sure you come across people like me every day of your life. They don't care if you are in a wheel chair or not, they realise you are a complete moron and are willing to say it to you.


If you wanted sympathy, go to one of these other bleeding hearts. But as I said before, you could be on life support, it doesn't stop you being a bloody moron.

Keep up the great work!

What is your obsession with Wheel Chairs?

Time for a fresh sock I think

I dont have one, you are the one that brought it up.

Look, go and spoon feed your kids some cement to harden them up. You don't want them being a whinging idiot like youself groveling for sympathy of a Rugby League forum.

Oh! And I have no wish to divulge my disability and never intended to so the sympathy vote really needs to go to you. I divuldged I have a disability only because it was relevent.

I am not outraged , upset or anything you are trying to invoke in me. You clearly just crave attention. And as I said before toss away lad toss away. There does that feel better now.................??