surely they need to be congratulated for making the steps. You have to start somewhere, and winning trophies is a good way to do that!

aww, thats sweet, you even felt the need to defend him against a non-existant insult, thats really nice if a little misplaced,

look, if they get to be SL players, fantastic, wakefields youth development is working, if they dont, then it isnt, regardless of winning this trophy,

its worth remembering that the very best youngsters dont really play in this comp, they are already in and around the first team, this is the object of youth academys, to prepare players for pro RL,

if they do that great, if 3 or 4 of this squad make it to be SL regulars for wakefield, then it is doing its job, any more and they are doing a fantastic job, any less and they arent,

Very few players make it to SL, many many more play a year or two of academy RL, so yes, most of this squad will fall away, most of them dont have a career in RL, that is a given, Wakefields job is to make sure the few who can are given the opportunity and help to do so. THAT, is youth development, not this trophy

Like I say, nice achievement - but there was a photo of the last Wakefield team to win the equivalent 25 years back, and Trinity hardly pulled up trees in the subsequent years.

The real challenge, the real victory will come from the players making it into the first team where they can win the real honours.

well done to those lads, they have won a trophy, good on them,

but it is an unfortunate reality that for the vast majority of this players, thats it, this is the peak of their career, they have won something at academy level,

most of this squad wont play a first team SL game, a few will make a semi pro game, a few a semi pro career, hopefully maybe 4 can make SL regulars, that would be a great acheivement for Wakefield Wildcats

exactly,


i have seen some fantastic leeds youth sides produce no-one, if have seen some pretty average ones give us great players

Right now at Leeds we arent doing great at academy or reserve level, because what are most clubs reserves are in the first team squad, and what are most clubs academys are playing plenty of reserve football, we arent close to winning any trophies at this level, yet we have seen Hall, Ablett, Watkins, Allen, and BJB up and around the first team squad, i know which one i would rather have

I understand your point about getting players to 1st team level but with regard to the five players named, well that certainly wasn't an exhaustive list, hence the etc etc etc. which you chose to ignore.

My original post was in response to:

which kind of insinuates that we have only just begun to produce players through our academy.

Wakefield Trinity have always produced players from their junior system, world record points scorer Neil Fox being a notable one.

In the photo I posted earlier, there are a number of players who went on to play first-team football most notably Gary Spencer and Billy Conway.

I'm not professing that Wakefield Trinity produce more Senior players than any other club I was only defending the point that we've always produced good quality juniors unfortunately we don't always enjoy the fruits of that development.

Let's hope we can hang on to some of these fantastic young players as they develop their professional careers.

ps. Thanks Al, I'll take your comment as a huge compliment.

where are they then? you have named 6, thats hardly something to be proud of after over 10 years,

where are the rest? these regular super league players developed by Wakefield trinity?

thats from 25 years ago



then you dont have good Junior Development then do you? if you arent producing what you should be, then you arent good at what your doing

lets hope they develop professional careers first,

Are you just pretending or are you really this thick?

Do all the players we have produced still have to be playing super league to fit your criteria of development.



Do you honestly believe that Wakefield Trinity have only produced six players who have gone on to play at super league level?
If so then you obviously aren't pretending to be thick, if not then do your own research cos I'm not going to do it for you.


No $h!t Sherlock!

Go back and read my post and see why that answer was included.



Jeez! The reason why we don't always enjoy the fruits of our development system is because bigger more predatory clubs like Leeds come along and tempt many of our home-grown players away from the club.
How on earth does that translate into us (Trinity) not having a good Jr development?



yes! Let's hope they do develop professional careers, just the same as any other junior produced by any other club!

And ferguson, pitts, george, bibb, morton.

Well done on having the 5th best academy Wakefield.

Thank You!

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aaahh!

Now I understand

no, nobody has said that, what a strange thing to make up!

no but they need to be regular starters in super league squads over a sustained period of time




no, but i dont think they have produced a huge amount more, who would be regular starters in SL squads for sustained periods of time,



because you were trying to prove wakefield had always had good youth development, your best examples were neil fox and a couple of players from 25 years ago




like Ellis and Pitts? i wonder how many players developed by Leeds a more predatory club like wakefield has had over the past few years?

i did wonder how long it would take you to blame somebody else

because you arent developing players who will go onto play for the senior side, this is the point of youth development, if you arent doing it, you arent very good at it,

but after all, you did produce Gareth Ellis, in ten years, that means you have done well doesnt it?

Dont pitts, brough, snitch, bibb, george, morton and ferguson count as players that have played for the senior side this season?

I'm glad you agree.

Quote ="pyeman"Dont pitts, brough, snitch, bibb, george, morton and ferguson count as players that have played for the senior side this season?'" Luke George was from our academy FWIW. www.wakefieldwildcats.co.uk/luke ... 02054.html Quote Previous clubs: Huddersfield Giants'"

Quote ="pyeman"Dont pitts, brough, snitch, bibb, george, morton and ferguson count as players that have played for the senior side this season?'" Luke George was from our academy FWIW. www.wakefieldwildcats.co.uk/luke ... 02054.html Quote Previous clubs: Huddersfield Giants'"

Quote ="Wadski"Luke George was from our academy FWIW. www.wakefieldwildcats.co.uk/luke ... 02054.html'" Ah didnt know that, in the same way i imagine very few know that lunt was from ours.

Quote ="Wadski"Luke George was from our academy FWIW. www.wakefieldwildcats.co.uk/luke ... 02054.html'" Ah didnt know that, in the same way i imagine very few know that lunt was from ours.

considering George came from Hudds, and Pitts is now at Leeds, and Bibb from Hull and then sent to HKR, Brough not going through Wakefields academy system to first team, but from wakefields academy around the houses, making his name at Hull, before moving to Cas then finally being a first team regular at Wakefield,

and considering Morton has played a grand total of three games in his career, no they dont count as players who wakefield have taken through the academy system, in to regular first team players

Ferguson does though

The difference between a predatory club and a club which signs players who have been released from another club is obvious!

Wakefield have produced players via the junior system every season for as long as I can remember!
Some seasons being better than others but we've always produced players!

If you want a definitive list I'm not going to provide it for you!
However the evidence and the facts are out there for you to find, so if you want to know go find them!

There are many I assure you! Happy hunting

In your opinion


you are a joker!

If you want to be constantly contentious at least try and make sense.

What?