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| unprovoked attack a bit like Newton and you lot wanted his head and the ban to be more than the injuries
Injuries should be a deciding factor, as for JD on wellens he hit him with the palm in the chest/shoulder and it rose up, more of a push and he'll get nothing for it as it doesn't warrant anything.
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| Quote ="tim791"So you are basically saying, you can punch someone? As long as its weak, nothing should be done for it?'"
Yes ask Jamie Peacock who has hit out plenty times this season and not been banned
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| As opposed to NRL this morning where the attacking player hit out with a forearm on the ground to the defender. The penalty was awarded rightly to the defence.
He missed with the forearm fortunately but the intent was there.
So last week Saints cut Grix up so badly he needed to have stitches inside his mouth and also on the outside by the doctor at the stadium and then additional work done at the hospital. They got away with that and now this week you've got this, which he will probably get away with.
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| Quote ="Rommel"Yes ask Jamie Peacock who has hit out plenty times this season and not been banned
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I do differentiate as do the RFL between two props having a flare up and a player in a defencless position being attacked to the head with no chance to defend himself.
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| Quote ="St pete"why a big ban?
Players don't get banned by how long the player they injured is out for.
It was wrong and was a cheap shot but I doubt he will get more than 2 games.'"
Untrue.
Howell throws a blatant elbow to Sam Tomkins' face, no serious injury, 3 matches.
Terry Newton throws a blatant elbow to Sean Long's face...........
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| Quote ="Mutts"did it have a lasting affect on your brain?'"
i would think it did
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| Quote ="Leeds_Rhydon"I believe David Howell only got a 3 match ban due to a good previous record and the fact that Sam Tomkins wasn't injured. Maybe they do...'"
Has KC got a previously good record?
He's one of the dirtiest cheap shot merchants in the game (and the fattest).
On a side note does anyone know the last time he scored from diving over the line at a PTB? He must try it every time i see Saints play but i can't remember the last time the fat f***er actually scored from it.
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| Quote ="St pete"what happens if a player does really really bad high tackle and totally cleans someone out but the player is fit to play following week?
Do we not ban him because he ok to play following week?
On Friday when Jason d brought the elbow up, if wello had stayed down with broken would the try not been giving?
IMO 3 match ban at most.'" the diferance being jd did not lead with the forearm it was ahand wich is legal but kc cheap shot should be punished and this should have happened in the game
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| Wonder why the shuddersfield fans are so bothered
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Laughable. They should ban biscuit bones Stosic for having his face broken by such a weak prod of the fist. Seriously are people suggesting he should be banned for it?'" Your a joke mate.
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| Quote ="St pete"
Players don't get banned by how long the player they injured is out for.
It was wrong and was a cheap shot but I doubt he will get more than 2 games.'"
What happened when Long got injured interfering with play from Newton? IIRC Newton got a hefty ban - much more than the usual for a poor tackle.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Laughable. They should ban biscuit bones Stosic for having his face broken by such a weak prod of the fist. Seriously are people suggesting he should be banned for it?'"
This is why Stains fans are now the most self-absorbed, clueless gobes in Rugby League. No Stain can ever do wrong, but look at the tantrums after the Newton Long incident.
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"If he gets a three game ban he misses it.
If he gets a two game ban he misses the Wigan game.'"
He will only get a 1 game ban minimum then. There is no way the RFL will allow a Saints player to miss those crucial games. The saints injury crisis will also be taken into account!
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| Quote ="moschops"Has KC got a previously good record?
He's one of the dirtiest cheap shot merchants in the game (and the fattest).
On a side note does anyone know the last time he scored from diving over the line at a PTB? He must try it every time i see Saints play but i can't remember the last time the fat f***er actually scored from it.'"
probably, much like every time sculthorpe was referred to the panel, he got let off for his previous good record, despite repeatedly being a dirty house, every time, good record, we'll let you off.
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| Quote ="Tony Catsmith"probably, much like every time sculthorpe was referred to the panel, he got let off for his previous good record, despite repeatedly being a dirty poop house, every time, good record, we'll let you off.'"
Been cited 4 times in last 2 seasonsand been 'No Charge' 4 times = Previous Good Record.
[url=http://www.therfl.co.uk/about/disciplinary.php?player=cunningham&club=&from_day=1&from_month=1&from_year=2008&to_day=1&to_month=10&to_year=2009&league=&charged=&search=searchRFL Disp Record for 2008/2009 for Cunningham[/url
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| Quote ="Who are ya!!"No your wrong big time, I know from being a boxer that a sharp little punch can just be if not worse that a big power punch, even more so if hits in the right spot. so stop typing nonsense, Cunningham should be banned for 3 or 4 games.'"
I am reading a book on the Foreman and Ali fight in 1974, and Ali's trainer was of the view that you can absorb any punch that you can see coming, and that's why Ali trained just on taking punches. His trainer said that it's the punches that you don't see coming that cause the knockouts, as the recipient has no time to protect himself. If it had been a big swinging punch, Stosic would have had time to move his head to absorb some of the blow. The fact that Stosic was over Cunningham would have made it less likely that his head would move back, and therefore the bones in his face took the full force of a punch from a physically strong athlete.
Three matches for me.
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| Quote ="St pete"why a big ban?
Players don't get banned by how long the player they injured is out for.
It was wrong and was a cheap shot but I doubt he will get more than 2 games.'" Of course they do that's why \newton got banned for so long. Oh hang on that's because it happened to a Saints player.
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| Just seen it on Super League show. Was a very cheap shot, but I don't think the intent was to deliberately hurt him. Think he'll get away with a one/two match ban to be honest.
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| Stupid niggly cheap shot and will probably get a ban.
But if nothing had happened to the wakey player, would anyone really care? It was hardly even a punch and lots of proper punches have been thrown this season without action.
Hope the injury isn't as bad as reports on here, get well soon.
KC should know better, especially given the players already on the sidelines at the moment.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"I am reading a book on the Foreman and Ali fight in 1974, and Ali's trainer was of the view that you can absorb any punch that you can see coming, and that's why Ali trained just on taking punches. His trainer said that it's the punches that you don't see coming that cause the knockouts, as the recipient has no time to protect himself. If it had been a big swinging punch, Stosic would have had time to move his head to absorb some of the blow. The fact that Stosic was over Cunningham would have made it less likely that his head would move back, and therefore the bones in his face took the full force of a punch from a physically strong athlete.
Three matches for me.'"
Anyone who knows even the slightest little bit about boxing should know that those are the hardest type of punches to take, short sharp jabs and short arm check hooks, it's because of the speed they can be delivered thus taking the recipient by surprise.
That will have been the deciding factor in this if Stosic has indeed sustained bad injuries. He wasn't expecting it at all so his face will have been relaxed. If you're stood toe to toe with someone in a fight you are expecting to take punches and will absorb them better.
I would much prefer someone to come windmilling at me than get in close and deliver a shot like that.
Someone I know was on the recieving end of a cowardly attack on a football field where someone came from behind and cracked him and made a real mess of his face. He wasn't a hard lad and it wasn't the best of shots by all accounts, but because the lad didn't see it coming it caused all sorts of damage and a fair amount of time in hospital.
Cheap shots like the one from KC should be dealt with severely IMO and even more harshly if a serious injury has occured.
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| @ the saints fans trying to defend it. Disgusting cheap shot from the fat elf.
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| Quote ="moschops"Has KC got a previously good record?
He's one of the dirtiest cheap shot merchants in the game (and the fattest).
On a side note does anyone know the last time he scored from diving over the line at a PTB? He must try it every time i see Saints play but i can't remember the last time the fat f***er actually scored from it.'"
pull your head out of your ass!
Cunningham has never Been dirty! He is tough and plays hard but never dirty.
Not sure why he did that as it's not like him.
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| That old chestnut
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| If they do take into account how bad the injury is and how long the player is out for, will the wildcats provide medical records to red hall or will they just take the wildcats fans word on it?
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