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| Quote ="Noel Cleal"It is very concerning when the RFU start signing league players that are young and have the abilities to actually make it in Union. Previous signings i.e. Farrell, Raynor, SBW and so on have shown very little thought to what these players would actually be like as Union players.
If the RFU have signed Smith then it may be the start in a change to their League recruiting policy. Which is again a worry.
Its a big loss of Leeds but i imagine they will have a young guy that will come through and will be just as good.'"
The problem with the Smith deal is that he's out of contract and so the club won't receive any money.
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| Quote ="Noel Cleal"It is very concerning when the RFU start signing league players that are young and have the abilities to actually make it in Union. Previous signings i.e. Farrell, Raynor, SBW and so on have shown very little thought to what these players would actually be like as Union players.
If the RFU have signed Smith then it may be the start in a change to their League recruiting policy. Which is again a worry.
Its a big loss of Leeds but i imagine they will have a young guy that will come through and will be just as good.'"
The RFU haven't signed anybody, Wasps have. The RFU refused to put their hands in their pockets for signings from League after getting their fingers burned with Farrell. |
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| Quote ="The Glorious League Freak"The biggest non event in the history of the game.
To say he is an average player its to wildly overstate his ability.'"
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| Quote ="Noel Cleal"It is very concerning when the RFU start signing league players that are young and have the abilities to actually make it in Union. Previous signings i.e. Farrell, Raynor, SBW and so on have shown very little thought to what these players would actually be like as Union players.
If the RFU have signed Smith then it may be the start in a change to their League recruiting policy. Which is again a worry.
Its a big loss of Leeds but i imagine they will have a young guy that will come through and will be just as good.'"
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| Quote ="Noel Cleal"It is very concerning when the RFU start signing league players that are young and have the abilities to actually make it in Union. Previous signings i.e. Farrell, Raynor, SBW and so on have shown very little thought to what these players would actually be like as Union players.
If the RFU have signed Smith then it may be the start in a change to their League recruiting policy. Which is again a worry.
Its a big loss of Leeds but i imagine they will have a young guy that will come through and will be just as good.'"
people said that about Pryce, Walker and Ashton. |
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| Quote ="RealCherry&Whites"He is actually signing for Penrith.'"
He cant be that desperate! |
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| Quote ="Schrödinger's Cat"Got to say that I agree with League Freak, if he was as good as some people seem to think he is, he'dhave kept 1 position as his own, but in the last couple of years he's played Wing, Centre and Full Back. He made one good appearance in a big game, and found himself playing for England in the world cup (as did Calderwood in fairness) although whether he should have been in that game after his disgraceful actions the week before is debateable.
He's not a tremendous loss for league, as someone on the Wigan board said, he's more in the Karl Pryce, Chris Ashton bracket, as opposed to Jason Robinson.'"
Well not really, he was terrific most of last season when he played, he also was one of Leeds' best players in all the big games last season. |
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| Quote ="Bob-Marley"Not suprised but absolutely gutted. Englands 3qtr line just got a whole lot weaker'"
Its more of a blow for England than it is for Leeds. Been back to back champions Leeds can easily replace him with a similar player from the NRL. England may have to go back to playing players like Wellens and Gardner. |
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| Quote ="saints35 bulls0"people said that about Pryce, Walker and Ashton.'"
Nahhhh Ashton was style over substance, Walker is more of a hard runner than a natural rugby player (not a bad punt by the RFU but still a loser) and Pryce is was the same.
I think that Smith is more of a Rugby player with well rounded passing running and, importantly for RU, kicking skills.
I usually joke with RU fans when they say my team signed such and such and he does not do this, this and that. I just say "Of course you silly idiots he has never been able to do that, if your team had actually watched him play before signing him they would know that".
The best ones have been the Welsh fan that complained that Iestyn Harris was erratic and slow  and the England fan that complained that Lesley counld not defend or Kick .
Smith shows that some Union coaches have started sky plusing Superleague matches and have been looking before buying. This is a very dangerous and worrying development. |
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How can a 22 year old be looking for a new challenge?
Surely there is still plenty of challenges left for him at Leeds and in RL (if he is moving to Union).
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| Quote ="Barnacle Bill"How can a 22 year old be looking for a new challenge?
Surely there is still plenty of challenges left for him at Leeds and in RL (if he is moving to Union).'"
Challenge my 'arris It's always about the money. Not that there's anything wrong with that. It's a job. |
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| Quote ="Code13"Noble will want to sign him once he has played RU for a season, only then will he be good enough for Wigan...
Its his choice, I suspect a career of mediocraty awaits him'"
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| Quote ="Serge A. Storms"Noble will not want to sign him he isn't Australian/Kiwi or SSI
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Noble? But this would be a signing for next season. |
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No, Nobby will sign him in 3 or 4 years once he has been "a star union player".
He clearly isnt good enough for Nobby now, what him being young and British.
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| Quote ="Code13"No, Nobby will sign him in 3 or 4 years once he has been "a star union player".
He clearly isnt good enough for Nobby now, what him being young and British.'"
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| Quote ="Barnacle Bill"How can a 22 year old be looking for a new challenge?
Surely there is still plenty of challenges left for him at Leeds and in RL (if he is moving to Union).'"
Why not move to the Tykes, or try his hand at dual-coding, if it's the challenge he wants? |
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| Quote ="belgianxiii"Why not move to the Tykes, or try his hand at dual-coding, if it's the challenge he wants?'"
See littlerich's comment above. |
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| Quote ="Catalancs"And your point being?'"
of all the boards on here, the Wigan one is buzzing of talk of the "communist cap" and the death of the game - fans of every other club seem to have retained a sense of perspective on the issue.
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I don't like League players going to Union but it's just a selfish thing on my part. Nothing to stop people playing any sport they like I guess.
The problem is always why, which is a mix of money and profile. Whether the game or challenge is better is easy arguement for the RL mob to win, but in the end, if the masses still turn up to watch the dross at Twickers then that's where the money is.
From a Smith point of view, he's a great club player and although I would play him for England, he's not a massive loss to England. There are others that are as good and some potentially better in the long run.
It's only the same as if Sinfield went. It would be a massive problem to Leeds and the fans would never forgive them for letting him go.....but it would hardly cause a ripple in the Inetrnational firmament.
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I feel the time is right to move on for more money.
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| Quote ="saints35 bulls0"of all the boards on here, the Wigan one is buzzing of talk of the "communist cap" and the death of the game - fans of every other club seem to have retained a sense of perspective on the issue.
one wiganer even seems to want to join the breakaway F1 competition for some unknown reason.'"
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| Quote ="Code13"No, Nobby will sign him in 3 or 4 years once he has been "a star union player".
He clearly isnt good enough for Nobby now, what him being young and British.'"
Is this the same Noble who tried to sign him last season?
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| So the Leeds player Lee Smith decides to go to Union and all some people can talk about is Wigan?
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