Quote ="gutterfax"the email list marked as "s" I have been using is now quite large. It includes the exec producer of BNA, Mr Woods, the generic BNA address, the Chair and GM at Quins RL and a few other select journos...... As I said at the top. This is designed to ensure that it doesn't happen again, not get any satisfaction this time around.'" Craig Spence at the RFL has always been keen to respond to my emails in the past: craig.spence@therfl.co.uk nigel.wood@therfl.co.uk richard.lewis@therfl.co.uk

Quote ="gutterfax"the email list marked as "s" I have been using is now quite large. It includes the exec producer of BNA, Mr Woods, the generic BNA address, the Chair and GM at Quins RL and a few other select journos...... As I said at the top. This is designed to ensure that it doesn't happen again, not get any satisfaction this time around.'" Craig Spence at the RFL has always been keen to respond to my emails in the past: craig.spence@therfl.co.uk nigel.wood@therfl.co.uk richard.lewis@therfl.co.uk

Mmmm. From what I understand this is no longer the case. This is Sky that are showing it, and are bound to go down there twice in a season.

ah...apathy. The ruling classes have maintained power for centuries because of it.


If the 110 odd people who have voted so far were to cancel their SKY SPORTS subscription from October to February, this would save them about £90......and so far, in 90 minutes cost SKY £9,000. Not saying people will or should, just trying to get enough votes to be able to send the results to Woods at the RFL to make them aware of the impact on fans.
The first rule when you want something is always the same...If you don't ask, you won't get!

Any response from 'the powers that be' yet?

Deafening silence......more worrying is the apparent Apathy from the club I have supported for 7 years, given my money to (many £,000's) as well as my time and effort when required (when we were the Broncos).

I am a realist, but if we were to get 1,000 votes (unlikely), then the RL press might sit up and take notice. I do not expect SKY/Orange TV/the RFL or anyone else to take any notice, but I bet when the fixtures are released for next season, the rush to book trips is down unless assurances are given. Even if 1 person is prevented from losing £300+ because of this poll, then it will have been worth it...........!

Not ruling classes. Just agreeing that he who pays the piper calls the tune. Now if you were to say that we had cost Sky £9000 in 90 minutes and then multiplied it until it hurt Sky you would be getting somewhere. As it is I doubt whether any of those 110 will even consider cancelling their subscription. If you want tyo do something positive then take Sky to the small claims court for lost money on the trip. If all the people that did lose money followed that course you may generate enough publicity through rival broadcasters to upset Sky and consider future rearrangement of fixtures. At the moment it is like warning somebody that if they don't mend their ways you will jolly well warn them again.

We can. You seem not to be able to.



Sky are televising this game. Sky have the exclusive UK broadcast rights to all Super League games – and as the main broadcast partner, their scheduling decision is what counts, not any local deal that Catalans may have done with orange or any other French broadcaster, which are only for secondary rights for French broadcast.

Can't sue anyone I am afraid. Pitty, but just one of those things. The small print states that all games are subject to being bounced......

You're a bit thick aren't you? The Bradford game was moved in October 2008, months before the season even began.

Doh.! I think you'll find that it was moved in October and then bounced again because the Aussie game had to be rearranged because of a dodgy pitch. (sorry can't find you an Emoticon of egg on face)

Game being postponed because of frozen pitch shocker!!

Friendly being postponed because of frozen pitch then given preference over SL fixture at last minute causing loss of hotel deposits shocker

Are you for real?

No, the press release in October 2008, clearly states that the round 2 game has been moved to the weekend of 6-8th February, which is the very same weekend on which the round 2 fixture against Bradford was actually called off due to a frozen pitch. In fact, being pedantic, Quins round 2 fixture was rescheduled to the weekend of 6-8th February before the 2009 SL fixture list was even announced.

The game against Manly wasn't moved because of a frozen pitch, the game was provisionally scheduled for the evening of Thursday 19th February, before being confirmed for the afternoon of Sunday 22nd February when it actually went ahead.

Egg on face?

And spend the money you would be getting back on actually going to the Small Claims Court.

It is appalling this decision, and EVERY RL should vote on this, because something needs to be done. You may be able to sit back now and not care as it isn't affecting you, but imagine it happened to your club, especially with the credit crunch. You would be doing exactly the same thing, so you may as well vote now and help the Quins fans before it happens to your club.

SKY are showing the game which is probably why they have moved it. Eddie and Stevo can't get from the North of England after the game on Friday night to the South of France. Not a lot of flights go that way on a late Friday night. Thery cannot fly out till Saturday morning. For them to get there in time to get booked into a hotel, get along to the ground, prepare themselves before kick off is nigh on impossible by 7pm hence Quins get booted to Sunday and to hell with the consequence. However all supporters of all teams need to realise this is not going to be a one off it will occur maybe two or three times a season and SKY will not commit to which ones, it will depend on current form of a team. It could be your club next, we are first and there will be another one later in the season who knows who it will be. Next season probably three or four. So get signing

To all 3 of them Craig I’m extremely surprised you have decided to allow Sky to move a Catalan game by 24 hours. Most who travel to France return on the Sun morning for Work on the Mon. Equally how often do Sky televise games on a Sun. I’ve lost 2 flights as I’m unwilling to pay double the original price for a flight change. To make it worse the missus is fuming viewtopic.php? ... c&start=15 Have a look at the above link to give you an idea of when bookings for France are made. I’m sure you will pass on your apologies and tell me Sky have it written in there contract that they can change matches 4 weeks before, but surely you must retain some influence on the management of the game. I can’t think of any other business sector that would allow a contractor to be allowed to adversely impact the organisations reputation and product without recourse. Yours disgruntled

To all 3 of them Craig I’m extremely surprised you have decided to allow Sky to move a Catalan game by 24 hours. Most who travel to France return on the Sun morning for Work on the Mon. Equally how often do Sky televise games on a Sun. I’ve lost 2 flights as I’m unwilling to pay double the original price for a flight change. To make it worse the missus is fuming viewtopic.php? ... c&start=15 Have a look at the above link to give you an idea of when bookings for France are made. I’m sure you will pass on your apologies and tell me Sky have it written in there contract that they can change matches 4 weeks before, but surely you must retain some influence on the management of the game. I can’t think of any other business sector that would allow a contractor to be allowed to adversely impact the organisations reputation and product without recourse. Yours disgruntled

Bill Arthur, Clarky, Pro, McDermott, Blocked nose Tez

I would be grateful to anyone who can PM me email addresses for the following as I want to send an open letter to all those concerned (or should be concerned) highlighting that this may well be the thin edge of the Wedge so to speak.
James Rule
Eamonn McManus
Gary Hetherington
Peter Hood
Mike Turner
Richard Wright
Ken Davy
Tony Colquitt
Ted Richardson
David Tarry
Ian Lenegan
Andy Gatcliffe

Bloody hell GF you weren't even going

Not the point. If these s get away with this without any bad press or rumblings, then it will be other Fans of other Clubs next time and I consider us to all be part of the same RL family.

Have just been informally advised that Quins RL fans could well have a 'case' to take to the High Court. It could br for 'losses incurred', or a request for a 'judicial review' and even for the , often overused, 'human rights'.

However, it should be noted that any actions of this type are always costly all round and the only end winners are the lawyers!!

Notice GutterFax & others have been active in writing to a wide number of people. So what about the Parliamentary Rugby League Group - their main interest is to 'protect' the interests of us 'the fans'.

i didnt choose any as im of to Barcalonaaaa

this year......enjoy.
next year.....hope it's not wire who get moved

Yeah but you don't have to worry about your passport running out for that do you!?