On the field you’ve been as good as any other SL team. But off it you’ve broke the salary cap in order to win these cups.

Sorry pal but we have been best team in super league era coz of good honest hard work.

We went over the cap by 2% which was minor coz of a payment to a youth player who played for his country.

Other teams have gone over the cap by major amounts on several times but they don't win anything!

Just face it we have won than anyother team thru hard work and pure class.

Yes I agree on the field you have been the best team in the super league era because of solid hard work. However you have breached minor salary cap restrictions in order to do this. But to say that the Salary cap is the only reason why St Helens are good would be silly.

I’m just saying that you have cheated off field in order to gain success on field however big or minor that breach was you breached it. Still there’s no taking away that you have been the most successful side in the SL era due to the amount of cups you have won.



And you’ve been over the cap for other things as well.



Bradford cheated Leeds in 2005.



Well do you remember the 2002 Grand Final when Bradford should of got a penalty. If the Referee had got the right decision and deacon kicked that goal that day it would have been a Bradford win. You were very lucky that Grand Final.

Lucky!!! LMAO

Look mate it happens to often to be called luck.

The is ifs and buts for every final(ask sinfield)

We didn't win all them super league titles, challenge cups, world clubs and league leaders coz we are lucky, cheat or break the salary cap.

We won them coz we are simply the best.

I’m not going to go round in circles.

What's to say the bulls would have kicked that goal in 2002?

All ifs and buts.

Then its justice because the referee had made the right decision to give him a kick at goal.

Another similar situation was The Leeds and Wigan game on the 4th July last year when Wigan interfered with the PTB with 30 seconds left. Klein rightfully gave Leeds the penalty but Rob Burrow missed. If Klein wouldn’t of given that penalty it would have been just as big as the injustice that was played out in the 2002 grand final between St Helens and Bulls.

That was never a penalty! It was justice that burrow missed

What is this penalty you are banging on about?

Please don't tell me the joynt one.

Teams don't win trophies year in and year out thru luck and cheating.

Maybe one day Leeds will be a club with history but you will have to start cheating and break the salary cap to get near our history.

I think some people need to re-read what was said in this thread, about the ptb between saints and cats.

Then get down off their high horse.

It must be joke if he thinks saints try and slow the play the ball down against a big dumb pack that catalan have?

Yes that one.







What history is that? I’d love Leeds to be the only team in SL history to finish top and not go to a Grand Final.

How about the terrible performances you’ve put in the biggest club trophie in the world over the years? I’d love Leeds to lose 38-0 to Sydney and 44-6 to Melbourne storm. I’d also love Leeds to have the wonderful history of been the only team to be nilled in a WCC final.

What wonderful history St Helens have when you look at it from all the worse angles.

More cups doesn’t mean better history. More cups just means more cups.

Leeds Rhinos have a better history than St Helens TYVM.



It doesn’t say that in my back to back champions The story of the 2008 Leeds Rhinos

Sorry damo but history and facts prove we have won alot more than Leeds.

1st team to win super league.

1st team to win it twice.

1st team to win challenge cup at new wembley.

1st team to win league leaders sheild.

More super league champs than any team.

More challenge cups in super league era.

Don't make me list our trophies next to yours

And you can bet on that... Oh hang on...

I'd swap it all tho to be back to back champs

Don't Leeds also have the claim to fame of being in the 1st ever grand final?

And getting beat by wigan.

Oh that don't count tho coz wigan broke the salary cap that year

Yes you have won a lot more than Leeds. But this doesn’t mean you have a better history than Leeds. Winning more stuff is just winning more stuff. Winning more stuff doesn’t mean you have a brillient history though.

Celtic Crusaders are in super league ahead of Widnes. But who has the better history despite the circumstances?

Leeds have a better history than St Helens despite the saints winning more stuff end of.



Neil Armstrong was the first man to step on the moon but does that make him the best astronaut to step on the moon?



George Washington was the first president of the united states but does this mean he was the best president of all time?



Floyd Mayweather, Jr was the first person to knock Ricky Hatten out in his professional career. Does this make Manny Pacquiao’s knockout second best?



Tony Hawks was the first person to walk round Ireland with a fridge. Does this make him the best ever person to walk round Ireland with a fridge?



That I’ve already given you credit for. But you have broken the salary cap in the SL era. Just accept the facts. You should pick on a side more your own size with Wigan Warriors when it comes to history & cups you BULLY.



Please do

I don't give $hit who was 1st on moon or any of that crap that has nothing at all to do with rugby.

Super league records say we have better history than you. Fact

We won super league more than Leeds.fact

We won more challenge cups than Leeds. Fact

We won more league leaders sheilds than Leeds. Fact

We topped super league more than Leeds. Fact

We have better history than Leeds. Fact

So damo you admit that saints and wigan have better history than Leeds?

Also maybe the bulls!

Best Yorkshire team to play super league?

The bulls. Fact

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Quote ="St pete"I don't give $hit who was 1st on moon or any of that crap that has nothing at all to do with rugby. '" I’m just giving other examples that first don’t always mean your better. Quote Super league records say we have better history than you. Fact'" Yeah this is signature material. A saints fan saying rugby league started in 1997! Quote We won super league more than Leeds.fact'" Doesn’t make you the best super league side though. I’m sure Leeds Rhinos hold record for the best deffence and attack in a season. Quote We won more challenge cups than Leeds. Fact'" It’s a cup competition that’s seen better days. At least Leeds were winning it whilst the whole competition was appreciated and not just the final. Quote We won more league leaders sheilds than Leeds. Fact We topped super league more than Leeds. Fact'" Quote We have better history than Leeds. Fact'" Leeds have the better history. You ought to take a read of the clubs history here - www.therhinos.co.uk/club/history/317.php

The best poster on rlfans for constantly spouting e - Damo - FACT

Saints won,you all need to get over It.

I edited so it said history & cups. If you want to laugh at Leeds because of our cup record then your ought to pick on a bigger cup record than yourselves. You would never see me going on a Castleford forum and pointing out that our cups are more in numbers than yours.

Leeds have the best history in the whole of super league. St Helens and Wigan may of won more than us but they’ll never have an history as proud and humble as ours.



The Bulls had they little patch and they one year wonder in 2005 which was a blatant breach of the salary cap.

Yet in this case he appears to be the more rational one.

Who'd have thought it...

Yes damo but u was saying we only win all these cups coz we cheat!!

How wrong could you be.

Man of steel= scully(twice), Lyon, wellens, roby, graham. Did they all cheat?

BBC team of the year was saints even before the Ryder cup team.

BBC coach of the year was Anderson that was before any other coach in any sport that year. Did he cheat?

Look damo, saints are steeped in super league history. You can't deny it!!!