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| Quote ="bulls113"the stadium has a lot to do with it espec when its freezing and raining and playing as bad as we have done for a decade if we had a ground like wigan or hull we would get bigger crowds.'"
Says a lot about the kind of 'fans' you attract- sad really, I thought RL is about supporting your team, not admiring the stadium. Look at Headingly- not brilliant but Leeds can attract the crowds.
Personally I think Bradford have to move away from the whole 'Bully Bully' thing, it's passed its sell-by date.
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| Quote ="vbfg"And Huddersfield fans don't have any jokes they didn't steal from Halifax.'"
We didn't steal them, they were willingly donated so long as we promised to use them as often as we can!
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| Quote ="bulls113"the stadium has a lot to do with it espec when its freezing and raining and playing as bad as we have done for a decade if we had a ground like wigan or hull we would get bigger crowds.'"
rubbish, you all managed to find odsal when you were successful and lots of free tickets
personally i think the lack of success recently just shows that a lot of bradford fans really were/are fairweather/gloryhunting fans
i dont think the leeds-bradford derby can come anywhere close to matching the wigan-saints and hull derbies, in fact i would say cas-wakey is getting bigger
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| Quote ="Paul124897"It was pretty cramped at Odsal last night, felt like more than 14k'"
Yeh, same was said around us. Some gaps, but the seating stand was full and away stand was over half full and pop stand was significantly more cramped than we've had for a while! With the Hull KR game it was announced as around 12,000 and that felt bigger.. plus Hull KR had a lot of fans in the pop stand compared to most other teams.
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| Rain?
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Three reasons not to go to the Pit surely?
Unless your in that lovely Coral Stand, tis a beaut.
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| us wire fans are loyal and we've been watching cack for years
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Bulls win game. Folk who do not wish us well find things to whinge about. Nothing new under the sun.'"
A Bradford fan that thinks everyone is against them. Nothing new here either.
If it helps, people were commenting on how low your crowds were before you had even won, so it's nothing to do with the reason you state. You're just defensive.
Quote ="ridlerbull"I think the scope of activities available in West Yorkshire compared to Wigan/Saints (eating pies/rugby league) and Hull (kicking people in the face/rugby league) keep Leeds/Bradford derby crowds low IMHO.'"
Ah, so when it's to do with Bradford, the activities are to do with the entire county. But when it's to do with anyone else, it's just their individual towns/cities. I like your fair comparison
There's knack all to do in Bradford. You have to go to Leeds to find something decent to do. Don't forget that St Helens is right next to Liverpool and Wigan next to Manchester also. So there goes your regional comparison.
Bradford found something that worked to get the crowds in, and either that no longer works or they no longer have the ability to make it work anymore. The questions are what they were, how they worked, and why they aren't working anymore.
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| Quote ="Bilko"14,554!!!!!!!!!!!
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Still more than were at Saints v Leeds a few weeks ago.
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| Quote ="Liane"Yeh, same was said around us. Some gaps, but the seating stand was full and away stand was over half full and pop stand was significantly more cramped than we've had for a while! With the Hull KR game it was announced as around 12,000 and that felt bigger.. plus Hull KR had a lot of fans in the pop stand compared to most other teams.'"
suspect theres some massaging of the announced crowd figures tbh. as stated hullfc crowd was definitely larger than hullkr one and they were announced as virtually the same, Last night was deinitely more than 14.5k. Given capacity of odsal is 24.5k where on earth would another 10k have fitted in
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| Quote ="Shmoo"Still more than were at Saints v Leeds a few weeks ago.'"
or less than Leeds v Saints last week.
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| Quote ="mat"suspect theres some massaging of the announced crowd figures tbh. as stated hullfc crowd was definitely larger than hullkr one and they were announced as virtually the same, Last night was deinitely more than 14.5k. Given capacity of odsal is 24.5k where on earth would another 10k have fitted in
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I was too ed to count but I said to my dad it's a 16k crowd
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| Quote ="mat"suspect theres some massaging of the announced crowd figures tbh. as stated hullfc crowd was definitely larger than hullkr one and they were announced as virtually the same, Last night was deinitely more than 14.5k. Given capacity of odsal is 24.5k where on earth would another 10k have fitted in
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In the gaps not taken up by an extra 10 thousand people?
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| Quote ="mat"suspect theres some massaging of the announced crowd figures tbh. as stated hullfc crowd was definitely larger than hullkr one and they were announced as virtually the same, Last night was deinitely more than 14.5k. Given capacity of odsal is 24.5k where on earth would another 10k have fitted in
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No way. Loads of room...everywhere
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| Quote ="Mark_W"or less than Leeds v Saints last week.'"
Yes, that's true. But the point remains that Bradford are as well supported at the bottom half of the league as the so-called entertainers at the top of the league.
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The fact that we managed to pull in 15k for smaller games back in the day is merely testament to the staggering quality of the marketing going on back then. That marketing budget no longer exists.
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| Quote ="Shmoo"Yes, that's true. But the point remains that Bradford are as well supported at the bottom half of the league as the so-called entertainers at the top of the league.'"
But Saints have never averaged around 15k or whatever Bulls did, which means they've [ilost[/i fans.
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| Quote ="Shaggoth"If we get a roof on the popular side and STILL get 14k against Leeds then I think mocking us is fair game. Until then its a fruitless exercise in comparing crowds at roofed stadiums with the hideous hole we play in.
The fact that we managed to pull in 15k for smaller games back in the day is merely testament to the staggering quality of the marketing going on back then. That marketing budget no longer exists.'"
hmmm...where did that money go?
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| Quote ="joburg"Says a lot about the kind of 'fans' you attract- sad really, I thought RL is about supporting your team, not admiring the stadium. Look at Headingly- not brilliant but Leeds can attract the crowds.
Personally I think Bradford have to move away from the whole 'Bully Bully' thing, it's passed its sell-by date.'"
headingly isnt brilliant but atleast its sheltered and on a cold rainy night standing on the terrace at odsal isnt the most appealing thing to do especially when the games on sky.
but i suppose you need something to moan about
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"A Bradford fan that thinks everyone is against them. Nothing new here either.
If it helps, people were commenting on how low your crowds were before you had even won, so it's nothing to do with the reason you state. You're just defensive.
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Not at all.
I'm just perplexed that I log on here having got back from the game, and all I see are threads having a go at Bradford's crowds and threads having a go at the officials (to name but two). Nothing about the game itself. Yet when Bradford lose, we get "Bradford are Finished" - type threads. You don't have to be partisan to see a theme there?
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| Quote ="Adeybull"Not at all.
I'm just perplexed that I log on here having got back from the game, and all I see are threads having a go at Bradford's crowds and threads having a go at the officials (to name but two). Nothing about the game itself. Yet when Bradford lose, we get "Bradford are Finished" - type threads. You don't have to be partisan to see a theme there?'"
So you're annoyed that everyone isn't singing Bradford's praises and suggesting Bradford are going to storm to the top of the league now? Is that it?
It was a poor crowd for what is supposed to be one of SL's biggest games. People are allowed to comment on it. They hardly won convincingly, so not many people are going to suggest that Bradford are on the up and up.
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| Quote ="Shmoo"Still more than were at Saints v Leeds a few weeks ago.'"
Is Saints vs Leeds a derby game?
What a completely ridiculous comparison!
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| Quote ="Wire_Yed_79"us wire fans are loyal and we've been watching cack for years'"
try being a huddersfield fan for over 20 years then you'll know what cack is
Quote The fact that we managed to pull in 15k for smaller games back in the day is merely testament to the staggering quality of the marketing going on back then. That marketing budget no longer exists.'"
i'd suggest its because you are no longer winning things
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"Is Saints vs Leeds a derby game?
What a completely ridiculous comparison!'"
No, it's a top of the table clash. Even if you contest the comparison, I repeat, the point remains that Bradford are as well supported at the bottom half of the league as the so-called entertainers at the top of the league.
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