Why is he a ? He's just saying it as how it is, you just don't want to hear it.

Welsh RU filling there pant's ...slowly.

he's worried




if i was the RFL or welshRL i'd stick another welsh team into championship1* sharpish



* the next welsh team has to be 100% welsh player based....or at least stick to the same quota rules as the rest of us in the championship

[iThere's so much money in the union game that their players may be targeted in the future. [/i

I stopped reading after that! Clearly hasn't got a clue! Nice to see RU cacking it at the thought of RL developing the best players in Wales though!

Not one mention of Union providing a better playing experience should a young Crusaders player switch codes, just money! How sad.
It can't buy you love!

"It has probably taken over rugby league as a professional sport"

Not if yesterday's England v Italy game is anything to go by!



Half of 'em look as if they should be playing for the thirds in a local park.

Don't blame you – so much money in the game that they can't support more than four professional teams: hence Celtic Warriors being disbanded by WRU, and Samuels' desire to form a professinal RL team. rofl

Quote ="Barnacle Bill""It has probably taken over rugby league as a professional sport" Not if yesterday's England v Italy game is anything to go by! Half of 'em look as if they should be playing for the thirds in a local park.'" Tell me about it, have a look at this. news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_union/7877034.stm The best bit is when Guscott says 'you don't even see that in schoolboy rugby'.

Quote ="Barnacle Bill""It has probably taken over rugby league as a professional sport" Not if yesterday's England v Italy game is anything to go by! Half of 'em look as if they should be playing for the thirds in a local park.'" Tell me about it, have a look at this. news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_union/7877034.stm The best bit is when Guscott says 'you don't even see that in schoolboy rugby'.

Whilst it is a bitter pill to swallow for chip on shoulder rugby league fans, Rugby Union HAS surpassed rugby league as a professional sport.

By the way, the England team at the rugby league world cup, probably wouldnt have made the third team on a local park.

I'm all ears.

Please do explain!

We could be in Titan territory here.

The floor is all yours.

I didn't realise that Lee Byrne ran out for the Blue Bullls in the RLC.
Now there's a Welsh player of Superleague quality. Pity he's running out as the best international fullback in World RU.
That's ironic for the Victor Meldrew brigade.

Quote ="crucrucrusaders"Tell me about it, have a look at this. news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_union/7877034.stm The best bit is when Guscott says 'you don't even see that in schoolboy rugby'. '" didnt see the game yesterday, but that is comical. think about it, thats one of the best 6 teams in europe!! inverdale is a c0ck!

Quote ="crucrucrusaders"Tell me about it, have a look at this. news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_union/7877034.stm The best bit is when Guscott says 'you don't even see that in schoolboy rugby'. '" didnt see the game yesterday, but that is comical. think about it, thats one of the best 6 teams in europe!! inverdale is a c0ck!

Actually I would agree with his statement too.

Look at the amount of professional RU clubs around the world. There are far more clubs around.

They have professional clubs based in England, Ireland, Scotland, Wales, France, Italy, South Africa, New Zealand, Australia and so on.

We have pro clubs in England, Wales, France, Australia and NZ.

They are capable of pulling huge crowds in for Internationals, and are now starting to do the same for some club games (see Quins 50k crowd at Twickenham, and Leicester taking a game to Walkers Stadium).

Their revenue streams also far exceed anything we have in league.

Just a pity that they have a dire sport!

Quote ="crucrucrusaders"Tell me about it, have a look at this. news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_union/7877034.stm The best bit is when Guscott says 'you don't even see that in schoolboy rugby'. '" didnt see the game yesterday, but that is comical. think about it, thats one of the best 6 teams in europe!! inverdale is a c0ck!

Quote ="crucrucrusaders"Tell me about it, have a look at this. news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_union/7877034.stm The best bit is when Guscott says 'you don't even see that in schoolboy rugby'. '" didnt see the game yesterday, but that is comical. think about it, thats one of the best 6 teams in europe!! inverdale is a c0ck!

you cant compare a 'national' 'global' sport with a minority sport played in small pockets in a select few countries

Rugby union is a minor sport bar in new zealand.

in wales, scotland and ireland it is going backward or dieing off,

the paranoia from the welsh RU guys is a reflection of a declining game.

sure the international crowds are OK but the club crowds are pathetic and merging clubs still hasnt worked.

Not a clue what your point is, or how it relates to my post.

what about england, wales and south africa?


where do you get that idea from?


agree there's a certain sense of worry in his statement. interesting to read the wrfu boss saying both codes can co-exist in wales.


it certainly was a desperate measure super14, celtic league. hasnt worked as well as the rugby unions would have liked.
the whole amateur ethos which stood union in good stead for so many years is currently hindering it at club level in my opinion.

Hmm … and yet between them, the dominant southern hemisphere RU powers can muster 14 professional teams in three countries: SA, Aus and NZ.

RL musters 16 professional teams in two countries (NZ and Aus)

it's not difficult chuck.
you're making comparisons between league and union.
if you believe the press and media hype, that's like comparing football and hockey

1. england : soccer first, then daylight.

2. wales - they cut the number of clubs in half, crowds at club level arent the best. soccer does much better.

3. south africa - apparently soccer is much bigger. union is still a toffs sport.

sure union has areas where it is strong, but its not like they are many or indeed any bigger than RLs.

for example look at england, RL is strong in Leeds. union isnt strong in any major city in england in the same way.

yeah the get great crowds for internationals but at club level its just not there.

theyll go to an event but arent really fans

with Super LEague exapanding well into france with les cats and later toulose, and also to wales, and the NRL doing very well in New zealand and considering expansion into PNG, i can understand the union guys being paranoid.

at least with all the RL games theyll be watching theyll get a chance to watching proper running rugby instead of their game.

seriously, how anybody can watch it and think its good is beyond me.

(btw, this is getting close to Other Sports Forum, and lockage, territory.)

im not a union fan. im sat here listening to wigan-wakefield on the net rather than watch scotland-wales on the tv.
i agree that football is clearly no1 in england but it's biggest rival in terms of column inches is union (cricket during the ashes)
union is no1 in wales and a distant second in scotland.
leicester, bristol and london are quite big and they have top flight union teams.
to deny any of this seems a bit foolish to me. im with you in that icant understand how anyone can sit down, watch a game of union and a game of league then honestly say union is better.

regarding tb's recent (and correct) post, i feel celtic and rl in general must be left to fight for itself. if it's not meant to be then so be it.
i can see a bright future for league in wales, i just cant see it becoming the national sport any time soon.