wakey wakey, RL has been dominant in NSW and Q'land for 100 years and is still a decade behind AFL on teh National stage!

Another Brisabane team IS NOT EXPANSION. It is simply shoring up the heartlands. After 100 years you would think we would have our only two cities secure by now!

N(ATIONAL)RL. The clues in the name!

how is RL behind AFL when its season has 40 million more viewers on TV than AFL every year.

we are far and away the bigger sport when you look at all fans combined.

being in a state where AFL is dominant has addled your thoughts.

you need to spend some time in queensland & nsw where people dont give a s**t about AFL.

as these states represent the majority of australia, RL is in a very strong position.

another club on the central coast and another in queensland will be massive for the game

no thank too the figkin dronco broncos . evil bacdtards

NRL has its TV viewers due to being popular in the two most regionally populous states. After that we are light years behind!
The AFL trounce us in:
Media coverage
Individual club revenues
Individual Club profits
Bums on seats
Club sponsorship $'s
Code sponsorship $'s
Members
Expansion into non heartlands
Future plans for expansion

FFS in my city that is half the size of Brisane the two AFL teams are bigger than the Broncos, who have the advantage of a whole city to themselves. When the Broncos are selling out every game then it is clearly time for another Brisbane team.

If we had teams in Perth, Adelaide and Melbourne that were as popular and well supported as the Swans and Lions you might have a point.

I take no joy in seeing the NRL be so insular and losing ground year on year but not living in Sydney gives a clearer picture of what is happening on the National stage and at the moment the NRL is being left way behind.

yes when you include both crowds and TV ratings RL does come out well in front of AFL.

you've even mentioned the reason, its popular with a majority of the population.

as long as we maintain number 1 spot, im not fussed about the sports that trail in our wake.

the queensland RL clubs all get the highest crowds in the NRL. with the population of queensland booming, the state needs more teams, probably two.

another team in west brisbane circa 2012 will further enhance our hold on queensland.

with the population booming, we will take advantage of this.

it will also make life much more difficult for the brisbane lions as well, another positive.

anyway mate, rather than spending most of your time talking up AFL, why not try and get out to some NRL games, and actually watch more of the NRL yourself.

i have an idea. relocate broncos too perth

the AFL needs to concentrate on shoring up its international game if it is going to compete as a major sport

surely they could have a world cup, there must be enough Aussies with foreign grandparets to make an Ireland, Scotland team etc....if they had a World Cup this could get interest in AFL and maybe start the code taking off in these countries

you must be joking sally

The NRL covers far more cities than the AFL.

NRL: Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Gold Coast, Newcastle, Canberra, Wollongong, Townsville, Auckland

AFL: Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Perth and Adelaide.

I hope you're joking.

Lol as much as i'm a league fan, you may find a few of the teams in Melbourne do actually hail from what would be termed as cities also

What?

gelong cats . from a city

Even if you add Geelong the fact remains that the NRL covers far more cities than the AFL does.

BTW Geelong is 74km from Melbourne, in comparison Penrith and Campbelltown are both 60km from Sydney. Should they be counted as separate cities too?

the AFL do actually have a world cup.

except australia arent allowed to play as they are too strong.

so get this its an A(ustralian) FL WC without australia.

check out leagueunlimited, thefightclub, theres a really funny thread on international aFL.

please mate, i hardly classify melbourne itself as a city its that far behind sydney.

newcastle, wollongong, gold coast, brisbane, melbourne, auckland.

penrith is practically a city on its own right.

RL areas in australia comprise 55% of the entire population.

throw in our exposure to NZ, and its NRL by a long way

i think he was meaning places like st kilda or hawthorn were cities, which would be quite silly.

they are suburbs of melbourne, much as balmain, parramatta or kogarah are sydney suburbs

Maybe one day, when the NRL realises the N stands for National and not NSW!

Australia only has 10 or so major population centres, how hard is it to get a team in each of them?

the NRL is actually international.

AFLs idea of international is to get a bunch of irish lads and play a hybrid game that no one actually plays.

yes then the aussies bashes them

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technically Parramatta, Penrith, Bankstown, Campbelltown etc are all cities. And the NRL grand final did outrate the AFL one

and the crowds for this nonsense of an Int game compared to true blue RL test matches in Sydney are?????

ffs as much as i'm a league man through & through, AFL absolutely kills us for passion, crowds, marketing, sponsorship, they are 100 times more proffesional in the way they run their game.

They understand having massive amounts of members for clubs is a sure way of making money, we lag behind.

If you think League is ahead of AFL on a national level then you truelly have your head in the sand

lol. Since when do big crowds validate everything? I'm getting sick from he constant circlejerking over crowds from people on the internet.

Agree except for the parts I've bolded. Passion? At Homebush I've seen 25'000 RL fans make more atmosphere than 60'000 AFL fans. There's no comparison.

As for professionalism, a lot of it is just the impressions given from their all powerful PR department. Look at how the NRL, AFL and A-League have all handled expansion to the GC. Amateurs would be able to do a better job than what the AFL have done.