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| We were 4.5 million in debt alone when Koukash took over. We have a plan in place to pay it off over 5years.
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| he should have spent a bit more on a decent logo design company. It looks like something done by a school kid.
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| Quote ="EHW"what happened to the money from SKY for TV rights? Or revenue from sPonsorship for 2013?'"
The Previous owner had already spent it in advance.We were in a financial mess.Literally didnt have a pot to in.The team had no kit,no training gear,not even enough rugby balls to train with.Didnt have enough players to fulfil our pre season friendly fixtures.Without the Docs intervention there is absolutely no doubt that we would have folded.
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| Quote ="Eastbourne Warrior"Anyone you thinks the better funded sides are not spending more on players than the measly salary cap allows is naive. The will be hundreds of ways to get around it which any half decent accountant can arrange.
If you do get caught not breaking the rules the the RFL invent something where you get done for breaking the spirit of the rules. So be it.
I read somewhere that win bonuses aren't counted for example. Many have muted that Leeds' foreign contingent often stopped off in Singapore for some 'banking' on the way home. There were always rumours of jobs for the WAG's at JJB or any other owners business or sponsors businesses.
To be honest i don't care, let him spend what he wants, if he's willing to chuck money into the sport then good luck to him.'"
There aren't many ways to legally circumvent the salary cap, not without lying to the RFL which is a dangerous business as Melbourne found out. Many of the "loopholes" like image rights and EBT's were done with the full knowledge of the RFL as they were more tax loopholes rather than salary cap avoidances. In recent years those loopholes have been tightened by HMRC, something which has contributed to (along with the NRL salary cap rise and exchange rate) making it much more difficult to sign quality Aussies.
Win bonuses are counted, prize money isn't.
International bonuses are no longer counted but I think used to be, isn't that how Saints got in trouble a few years ago?
WAG's payments are counted but might still be better for the player re taxes
Payments from sponsors businesses are counted.
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| Quote ="Iain"Apologies if this is on another thread, I've not seen it anywhere else, but the Doc today announced that fans of all clubs who buy a season ticket before some date in October (can't remember exactly) will be entered into a draw to win the chance to name one of his horses, get tickets to all of its races for the first year, and get any winnings it makes in its first race.'"
I'm surprised nobody else has picked up on this. I think the clubs involved are Leeds, Bradford, Wakefield and Huddersfield. The details are sketchy (in fact, virtually non-existent) but it appears that if fans buy their season tickets early enough, they get entered into a draw where the prize is to name one of Marwan's horses, get taken to the races for its first race and to keep any money it wins that day.
That's evil Marwan trying to do something for the sport as a whole rather than adopting the silo mentality that some club owners have. There would be nothing to stop Simon Moran offering tickets to see granny dampening inanity warblers Take That, for example, but, like so many other club owners, he sees only his club.
You have to keep reminding yourself: Mouthy Marwan [ibad[/i, Silent Simon [igood[/i.
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| Quote ="Red John"I'm surprised nobody else has picked up on this. I think the clubs involved are Leeds, Bradford, Wakefield and Huddersfield. The details are sketchy (in fact, virtually non-existent) but it appears that if fans buy their season tickets early enough, they get entered into a draw where the prize is to name one of Marwan's horses, get taken to the races for its first race and to keep any money it wins that day.
That's evil Marwan trying to do something for the sport as a whole rather than adopting the silo mentality that some club owners have. There would be nothing to stop Simon Moran offering tickets to see granny dampening inanity warblers Take That, for example, but, like so many other club owners, he sees only his club.
You have to keep reminding yourself: Mouthy Marwan [ibad[/i, Silent Simon [igood[/i.'"
If that's true surely it sounds pretty decent, even if the horse wins nowt.
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"If that's true surely it sounds pretty decent, even if the horse wins nowt.'"
Although can't find it anywhere, yet!
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| The RFL should have asked this guy to buy London. If those players he signed for Salford would have signed for Broncos that would have been awesome for the game down south. But people would have still found a reason to whinge...
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| Quote ="Madderzahatter"The RFL should have asked this guy to buy London. If those players he signed for Salford would have signed for Broncos that would have been awesome for the game down south. But people would have still found a reason to whinge...'"
Are you suggesting people are not whinging because he bought salford?
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"Are you suggesting people are not whinging because he bought salford?
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People are whinging because he came charging into the sport running his mouth off. He's pretty brash and likes to play to it "My name is Marwan Koukash"!
It's nothing to do with Salford as a club. Not for me personally anyway. When Salford have been in financial troubles I've only wanted to see them come out the other side. I'm glad they've got some cash in their pocket and I hope that a few more money men will arrive in the sport to take a shot at glory. My only reservation would be that if he doesn't get the success he craves that he will be off and potentially Salford will be in an even worse position than when he arrived, with the same income but much higher outgoings.
As for this idea that no one questions other teams re. the cap. Wigan have been questioned every year since they bought their way out of relegation. The vitriol meted out on Koukash and his band of merry Red Devils is nothing compared to what was dished out following Stuart Fielden's purchase.
Take the stick, laugh it off. That is what fans of top teams tend to have to do (not that I have ever experienced this).
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| Quote ="bewareshadows"Are you suggesting people are not whinging because he bought salford?
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People are whinging because he came charging into the sport running his mouth off. He's pretty brash and likes to play to it "My name is Marwan Koukash"!
It's nothing to do with Salford as a club. Not for me personally anyway. When Salford have been in financial troubles I've only wanted to see them come out the other side. I'm glad they've got some cash in their pocket and I hope that a few more money men will arrive in the sport to take a shot at glory. My only reservation would be that if he doesn't get the success he craves that he will be off and potentially Salford will be in an even worse position than when he arrived, with the same income but much higher outgoings.
As for this idea that no one questions other teams re. the cap. Wigan have been questioned every year since they bought their way out of relegation. The vitriol meted out on Koukash and his band of merry Red Devils is nothing compared to what was dished out following Stuart Fielden's purchase.
Take the stick, laugh it off. That is what fans of top teams tend to have to do (not that I have ever experienced this).
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| No, i'm suggesting they're whinging because he bought Salford and not their club. The game needs characters - enough have already left the game. Personally, what he says doesn't concern me...
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| They're putting together a decent squad, have a decent ground and a large population around them. All that is now missing is engaging with the old fans and bringing in new ones to get up to 10k crowds.
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| Quote ="John Gilbert Reds"m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZM1CSuKtPmE&sns=tw&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DZM1CSuKtPmE%26sns%3Dtw
Just listen to the last 10 seconds.'"
Listened to it, if you believe him you are deluded, no chance will you be top in 2015 & no chance will you be favourites to finish top.
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| Quote ="K-Diddy"Listened to it, if you believe him you are deluded, no chance will you be top in 2015 & no chance will you be favourites to finish top.'"
If you believed Huddersfield would finish top this yer you were deluded to right? Because I've had a look through the prediction tables an not one person has Hudds top by the end of the league rounds.
It depends who else we sign for this year and the. Who we bring in for the year after, nothing's impossible in sport with money and drive behind a club.
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| If only the sport could attract another 7 or 8 Koucash's.
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| Why not believe him? Everything he said so far he's done. He obviously had people signed up for 2015 to making statements like that.
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| Quote ="RED LEAGUE"If you believed Huddersfield would finish top this yer you were deluded to right? Because I've had a look through the prediction tables an not one person has Hudds top by the end of the league rounds.
It depends who else we sign for this year and the. Who we bring in for the year after, nothing's impossible in sport with money and drive behind a club.'"
Huddersfield have been finishing at the top end of the table since 2009 though, I've no doubt if Koukash has his way you will be up there but not within 2 years. You could make the top 4 in the next couple of years but I don't think you'll finish top.
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| Even Man City with all their millions and no restriction on wages took longer than 2 years. Probably too ambitious but there's nothing wrong with ambition. It may put too much pressure on his coach and players though. When you look at the players signed an their ages I'd expect Salford to struggle to get a full strength side out on too many occasions in the next year or 2.
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| Quote ="Madderzahatter"The RFL should have asked this guy to buy London. If those players he signed for Salford would have signed for Broncos that would have been awesome for the game down south. But people would have still found a reason to whinge...'"
well when you think about it, him buying the Broncos would've been a good marketing angle
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| Congrats Mr Koukash your first trophy - the wooden spoon!, courtesy of the London Broncos! Don't you just love sport.
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| Quote ="poplar panther"Congrats Mr Koukash your first trophy - the wooden spoon!, courtesy of the London Broncos! Don't you just love sport.'"
Not one Salford fan thought we'd finish any higher so its no disappointment, best of all NO RELEGATION!
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| Quote ="poplar panther"Congrats Mr Koukash your first trophy - the wooden spoon!, courtesy of the London Broncos! Don't you just love sport.'"
Just don't be cheering the Red Devils again next year as I know Salford was you birthplace mr panther
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