I like it. Wire, Wigan, Saints and Hudds. The others couldn't compete.

ThickFin - not even Leeds?

This...

...and this.

Surely each respective play-off run and GF is the playoffs to the WCC? Introducing a secondary play-off run in which non-champions can potentially go on and win a WCC is ludicrous and totally diminishes what the WCC is. The only expansion I'd consider legitimate would be including champions from other domestic competitions but... well.

World Cup In 2013
Four nations in aus in 2014
WCC in Southern Hemisphere in 2015
Four Nations in England in 2016
WCC in Northern Hemisphere in 2017
World Cup in 2018

Grand Final winners and Challenge Cup winners from 2014 and 2015 compete in 2015 tournament

Same from 2017 for that tournament?

I'd like to see SuperLeague reduced to 10 teams before thinking about expanding the World Club Challenge...

Wake up, the original poster said that the top 4 would qualify, which would rule out Leeds based on last season's table.

In 1997, New South Wales won the State of Origin series 2-1. Queensland have won the last six series. In 1997, Bradford Bulls won the Super League, last year they finished 10th

Let’s not live our lives as if it's still 1997

Heres one to chew on.
Scrap the English and Aussie play offs and just have a "world title" up for grabs between the top 4/5 clubs from each competition.
The SL and NRL titles could be claimed by the top of each league in the old fashioned way and there could be a "mied competition at the end of the season.
No need for additional fixtures, just a conundrum of where to stage the comp, plus no additional fixture cramming and this couls also act as one hell of a
build up to a $ nations or world cup etc.

that sounds interesting, lets see if anyone from the RFL take up your idea.

We could even have a top 8 situation.
The first round played on home soil and then take the games to Aus or stage them here.
Certainly the Englih teams would be busting a gut, to be able to play their Aussie counertparts, dont know if the Aussies would be quite as enthusiastic ?

it needs to be at the end of the season. the likes of mark riddell last year and danny buderus this year both missed out playing in the wcc because they had moved back to AUS. Whereas Darrell Griffin is now a world champion when he hasnt even won the league!

I've done a mock up of the current season to see what an extended 8 team WCC could look like, I know there isn't a 4N's planned for the end of the season but it shows it isnt difficult.

Saturday October 6th 2012- Super League Grand Final

Tuesday October 16th 2012- World Club Challenge week 1:
SL 1 vs NRL 4
NRL 1 vs SL4

Wednesday October 17th 2012- World Club Challenge week 1:
SL 2 vs NRL 3
SL 3 vs NRL 2

Sunday October 21st 2012- World Club Challenge Double header semi finals
Random Draw vs Random Draw
Random Draw vs Random Draw

Saturday October 27th 2012- World Club Challenge Final

Sunday 4th November- England vs PNG
NZ vs Aus

Sunday 11th November- England vs NZ
Aus vs PNG

Sunday 18th November England vs Aus
NZ vs PNG

Sunday 25th November 4N's Final.

So the national squads would only get a week maximum to train together, of which most players would be recovering in.

The Aussies don't want this though

Great idea, but the travel part of it would always be a big issue.

Was going to say about having the same number of teams and matches in both comps, then two weeks after the GF world club challenge (1v1)
But we have the challenge cup which for me is a better final than the super league (venue wise, weather wise and atmosphere).

Still if its the same number of league games (plus I suppose they have their extra origin games) it would be a fair WCC at the end of it all, Possibly held at a nuetral venue, ideally somewhere hot and luxurious offering fair packages to get a big number of fans.

Although I would love to see our top 4 competing against their top 4, I think only the winners deserve the WCC title shot.

why not have it every two years with the top 4/5 from each competition and rotate it with the 4 nations.

NRL will not agree to it, it's a pointless discussion.

Your probably right, but I think the 2 governing bodies are looking at ways to expand the "concept", so what would you like to see/ think will happen ?

I must have missed the incredible strides the domestic game has made in the UK during the Super League era since 1997 which transformed the competition and the clubs themselves into bona fide world beaters.

In fact, I'm sure there's at least five or six current Super League clubs who are just as good, if not better, than the top NRL clubs during the month of February, when fixtures are played solely in the UK and it's the NRL off-season.

I'm not a big Hetherington fan (to put it mildly) but he talked a lot of sense on Boots'n'all this week. Top 3 from each comp play off over a single weekend. I'd rather see that than the Magic weekend. The point he makes about exposing more British players to that standard of competition is a good one too, in terms of giving them more international experience.

Really? I thought that was an absolutely awful idea, and Stevo quite rightly ridiculed it IMO.

Of what significance is 2v2 and 3v3? Who would care, really? What do they get to call themselves if they win that game? It's just a friendly. The current WCC is struggling to get past the "just a friendly" tag as it is, let alone having a couple of even less significant games alongside it.

At least with the Magic Weekend there is something on the line (2 SL points) and it matters.

If the WCC wants to be taken more seriously, the teams involved have to be playing more than just one game. For me, that is the main crux. A two-leg game would be a huge step forward in terms of credibility and interest alone.

You might as well ask of what significance are most of the magic weekend games. Personally, as a neutral, I'd rather watch, say Warrington v Brisbane and Saints v Melbourne than, say, London v Widnes or Wakefield v Cas (meaning no disrespect to any of those clubs)...and I think the crowds would reflect that. At the magic weekend, the stadium is virtually empty until the last game of each day comes on.

Whatever the final concept, I want to see more of our players exposed to more international standard competition. I don't see us competing with the Aussies until that happens.

Ironically, both of the teams that participated in the season opening game on Sky and attracted record viewing figures. Go figure - teams outside the so-called 'elite' putting on a decent show.

As for the Hetherington suggestion - for once, I'm with Stevo; the format he suggested was based on expediting the whole thing taking place over one weekend, no doubt to keep costs down and minimise dirsuption to the SL season - the result would be a damp squib as a spectacle.

I think the best way to do it would be 12team league 6 team play off. 23 regular season games to create space for both the world club challenge and internationals.

Put all 6 teams in one group play each opposing nation team once. Top 4 teams go to the semis. You could even have a Europa League style event running alongside for teams placed 4-6 if demand called for it!

I think 12 teams would be too much. SL doesnt have 6 teams that could compete. I think they have 5 but I would go with a 8 team competition.

The 3 on 3 thing is pointless. If the 3rd and 2nd teams cant win it then all they are playing is glorified friendlies. That idea makes no sense to me. If we want an expanded competition there has to be a competition where every side that takes part has an opportunity to win the thing.

Think he meant 12 team SL, not 12 teams in the WCC.

And totally agree with the latter.