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| Quote ="wrencat1873"icon_lol.gif
Have you been asleep for the last 25 years
Paris, Crusaders, Bulls bust, Toronto. The list is endless (almost).
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I meant the nonsense of a club in Canada where they don't even play Rugby league.
Stability comes from supporting clubs that have been around since victorian times,
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| Quote ="Donnyman"I meant the nonsense of a club in Canada where they don't even play Rugby league.
Stability comes from supporting clubs that have been around since victorian times,'"
By stability do you mean...a sport that has gone backwards at an embarassing rate over the past 30 years and a sport that now pays its players less than it did at the start of superleague, once inflation is factored in? Or by stability, do you mean a sport that has seen more clubs go bust than any other sport? Or by stability, do you mean a sport that has seen people switch off watching it their tens of thousands?
yeah, these victorian clubs playing out of dumps of grounds are really helping the game :
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| And yet you still watch it. Supposedly.
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| Quote ="Donnyman"I meant the nonsense of a club in Canada where they don't even play Rugby league.
Stability comes from supporting clubs that have been around since victorian times,'"
Up to a point yes, but, the game was struggling before either Paris, Catalan or Toronto came into the fray.
Decisions need to be taken for the long term good of the game and serious thought given to advancing the international game.
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By stability do you mean...a sport that has gone backwards at an embarassing rate over the past 30 years and a sport that now pays its players less than it did at the start of superleague, once inflation is factored in? Or by stability, do you mean a sport that has seen more clubs go bust than any other sport? Or by stability, do you mean a sport that has seen people switch off watching it their tens of thousands?
yeah, these victorian clubs playing out of dumps of grounds are really helping the game :'"
Evidence please ?
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| Quote ="Willzay"And yet you still watch it. Supposedly.'"
I watch the odd game. Much prefer the NRL or super rugby
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| I'm a big fan of the fact i can now just ignore one big thread instead of one poster and his many many threads. Keep it up
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| Quote ="Donnyman"I meant the nonsense of a club in Canada where they don't even play Rugby league.'"
Hmm, I guess the six community Rugby League teams in the Vancouver area (Some of which now also have women’s teams) are playing a different rugby league then ?
And the British Columbia representative team and the Western Canada representative team don’t exist either......
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| Quote ="Vancouver Leyther"Hmm, I guess the six community Rugby League teams in the Vancouver area (Some of which now also have women’s teams) are playing a different rugby league then ?
And the British Columbia representative team and the Western Canada representative team don’t exist either......'"
I think that settles that one....
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| Quote ="Vancouver Leyther"Hmm, I guess the six community Rugby League teams in the Vancouver area (Some of which now also have women’s teams) are playing a different rugby league then ?And the British Columbia representative team and the Western Canada representative team don’t exist either......'"
I've already dealt with Vancouver that has a significant rugby union game, that the Canadians play and that immigrants from Australasia also mainly play as well. There is friendly Rugby league played there because the immigrants like to organise friendlies or tournaments and play some league. If you think that the influence of some ex pat Australasians will somehow end with Vancouver spawning a TWP style pro Rugby League side then dream on.
It is 7767 miles from Sydney to Vancouver
It is 4600 miles from Hull to Vancouver
Perez goes on about finding decent "Canadians" for Ottawa, players whom Nobby could not find when sent out by Argyle to scout Canada RU for likely professional level recruits. Maybe Nobby forgot to try Vancouver?
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| Quote ="Budgiezilla"I think that settles that one....
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Well it doesn't does it? Not one bit?
They play RL in Spain but I doubt they will be entering a team in Championship One anytime soon?.
An Italian team toured her in the 1950's so what??. RL is and has been played in far more countries than most people would realise, but translating that to entering a team into the professional ranks here is absurd, which is what TWP turned out to be and they had £18,000,000 behind them.....
And this actually settles "that one"
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Up to a point yes, but, the game was struggling before either Paris, Catalan or Toronto came into the fray.
Decisions need to be taken for the long term good of the game and serious thought given to advancing the international game.'"
Thanks for the post.
Yes of course we struggle because we are a throwback to the days when the North dominated Rugby Union and the south hated that. We broke away and the rest of the country stuck with the south. However we have spent 124 years surviving and doing pretty darn well, also surviving the onslaught of soccer.
But you know as well as I do we won't "expand" by TWP replacing London, or Ottawa replacing Wakefield, or Catalans replacing Widnes, or New York replacing Salford etc etc. This is the utter nonsense of calling what is substitution "Expansion".
You talk of advancing the International game. Once again in 2006 Richard Lewis put Catalans in the professional game here to do just that. Since that day the number of quality French players had dropped significantly and the France/GB tests were pulled.
I appreciate your idea that we need to protect the "Long term good of the game" but that is protected by sticking with the clubs, like Wakefield that have made it through 147 years. So called fans call your club out big style, but do you really think replacing Trinity for Toulouse would somehow revitalise the France.v. GB test games?
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| Quote ="Donnyman"Well it doesn't does it? Not one bit?
They play RL in Spain but I doubt they will be entering a team in Championship One anytime soon?.
An Italian team toured her in the 1950's so what??. RL is and has been played in far more countries than most people would realise, but translating that to entering a team into the professional ranks here is absurd, which is what TWP turned out to be and they had £18,000,000 behind them.....
And this actually settles "that one"'"
I wasn't saying that they are quality players, but our fellow Leigh supporter has lived in Vancouver for quite a while now and he should know. You stated that they don't play Rugby League in Canada which is wrong, just admit it. I agree with 90% of your posts, but not this one. One of those teams used to play at The Lamport Stadium, not that interesting I know, but I was aware of that fact. Keep up the good work anyway Donnyman....
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| Quote ="Budgiezilla"I. You stated that they don't play Rugby League in Canada which is wrong, just admit it.'"
Yes you are right they DO play Rugby League in Canada. I should have originally stated they don't play Rugby League in Canada beyond an ad hoc social level, and a few low level internationals.
I was wrong to post that original comment.
I do hope however you will provide some balance and also police the posts of those who are on the other side of the discussion?
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| Quote ="Donnyman"Yes you are right they DO play Rugby League in Canada. I should have originally stated they don't play Rugby League in Canada beyond an ad hoc social level, and a few low level internationals.
[uI was wrong to post that original comment[/u'" .
Well why post it then if you knew it was wrong, you haven't been posting fibs before have you?
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Sorry to disappoint you donny but it won't let me read it unless I disable my adblockers which ain't gonna happen, the thing is though once you've admitted to telling porkies how does anybody know if it's true or your just bluffing your way through on here, I did if you recall once asked if you played poker for a living, I'm more convinced than ever now that you do. see what I did there, I put your favourite emoji on just for you
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Sorry to disappoint you donny but it won't let me read it unless I disable my adblockers which ain't gonna happen, the thing is though once you've admitted to telling porkies how does anybody know if it's true or your just bluffing your way through on here, I did if you recall once asked if you played poker for a living, I'm more convinced than ever now that you do. see what I did there, I put your favourite emoji on just for you
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| Quote ="little wayne69"Sorry to disappoint you donny '"
Well you do disappoint me as you seem to have turned to trolling?
Anyway Newcastle Falcons were the Rugby Union club who wanted to "buy" TWP,'s vacant Superleague place and fill that with Newcastle Thunder.
It would be great for the SKY 2022 deal if we were looking at a Superleague of proper clubs from St.Helens to Hull
And from Newcastle to London
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| Quote ="Donnyman"Well you do disappoint me as you seem to have turned to trolling?
Anyway Newcastle Falcons were the Rugby Union club who wanted to "buy" TWP,'s vacant Superleague place and fill that with Newcastle Thunder.
It would be great for the SKY 2022 deal if we were looking at a Superleague of proper clubs from St.Helens to Hull
And from Newcastle to London
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Yes it would be good to see as it would Leigh, London or Widnes or little old York (said affectionately) in there, I wouldn't be too disappointed if Toulouse sneaked in either, as for the trolling bit well if bringing it to your attention that shall we say you've been a little wayward with the truth once again is trolling well then sadly I'm guilty as charged your honour, a bit like all of us that don't always agree with everything you say.
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| Quote ="little wayne69"Yes it would be good to see as it would Leigh, London or Widnes or little old York (said affectionately) in there, I wouldn't be too disappointed if Toulouse sneaked in either, as for the trolling bit well if bringing it to your attention that shall we say you've been a little wayward with the truth once again is trolling well then sadly I'm guilty as charged your honour, a bit like all of us that don't always agree with everything you say.'"
Yup, anyone who isn't xenophobic, parochial and insular is a troll, we should all bow down to Donnyman and his whippet.
NOT!
He has shown himself to be simply a bit daft, time and again.
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| Quote ="IR80"Yup, anyone who isn't xenophobic, parochial and insular is a troll, we should all bow down to Donnyman and his whippet.
NOT!
He has shown himself to be simply a bit daft, time and again.'" back with the insults again are we
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Not intentional, he just winds me up, the same thing again and again.
I sincerely apologise if anyone is offended.
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| Instead of all the time wasted or trying to bring in teams from outside of the UK the RFL should sit down & have a serious discussion about the reasons why they cannot expand the game further in the UK.
Just think how many cities & towns in the UK that don't have a professional or semi professional rugby league team
There are 51 cities in England alone yet only ten of them have a professional or semi professional rugby league team.
The population of the five largest towns in England is
Reading 232,662
Dudley 194,619
Northampton 189,474
Luton 185,543
Milton Keynes 184,506
None of them have a professional or semi professional rugby league team.
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| Reading or Luton should have been given a world cup game next year (if fans are back watching sport) that might have attracted a few curious locals.?
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| Quote ="GeoffRoebuck"Instead of all the time wasted or trying to bring in teams from outside of the UK the RFL should sit down & have a serious discussion about the reasons why they cannot expand the game further in the UK.
Just think how many cities & towns in the UK that don't have a professional or semi professional rugby league team
There are 51 cities in England alone yet only ten of them have a professional or semi professional rugby league team.
The population of the five largest towns in England is
Reading 232,662
Dudley 194,619
Northampton 189,474
Luton 185,543
Milton Keynes 184,506
None of them have a professional or semi professional rugby league team.'"
Having a strategy for the development and growth of the sport ?
This is Rugby League, run, as always, on a wing and a prayer.
Of course there should be a plan, that is both credible and achievable.
Our game has barely moved on since the Eddie Waring days and I dont think that there is any genuine desire to expand.
IF RL was ever capable of breaking out from the M62 corridor, even the so called big clubs would eventually be under threat, not to mention the smaller clubs in smaller locations, it's a classic catch 22, which is precisely why there should be a proper strategy.
Eventually, Union will swallow up League.
It already has the profile and media exposure, it's just a matter of time.
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