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| Quote ="Willzay"Toronto winning, and London losing, has made for a calamitous day in rugby league.'"
Toronto should not have won that game. Their 1st try was not a try. Toulouse absolutely robbed there.
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| Why no video ref?
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| Quote ="RoyBoy29"Why no video ref?'"
It’s an RFL conspiracy to get Toronto promoted
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"It’s an RFL conspiracy to get Toronto promoted'"
Are you well?
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| Quote ="Cokey"Are you well?'"
No it's being sarcastic.
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"It’s an RFL conspiracy to get Toronto promoted'"
I asked a genuine question.
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| Quote ="RoyBoy29"Why no video ref?'"
I will answer it, Sky only provide commentary over a feed from a local broadcaster, there is no facility for a Video Ref. Instead they used the In Goal Judges, one of these was either blind or had no bottle or perhaps both.
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| Cheers reffy
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| The biggest farce that could come out of all of this is that TWP have a home game in the MPG... we don't have video refs as a result... and TWP get promoted to SL (worth £1m apparently) due to an in goal judge having the sun in his eyes (or whatever). It could happen...
Of course, London or TO could benefit from an equally poor decision, but that wouldn't make it right either.
I just hope that the team that deserves it gets promoted, and we don't have any sour grapes due to dodgy decisions.
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| When Toronto/Manchester Wolfpack get promoted, all the RFL directors will all have a mass....
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| Quote ="Call Me God"How can you think that London, who defeated Toulouse BTW, will not finish above them? They have two SL sides to face, one in 5 days time after their transatlantic trip and the next away from he where they've struggled all year?.....
London will in all probability push Salford hard this Sunday before defeating Halifax.....London will face Toronto in Canada.....and if we get a decent referee, then anything is possible!
Toulouse and London will both be in the mix in 2019 to replace Toronto.....unless they move the goalposts again
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why? you previously said toulouse were cooked after london beat them! they were beaten by a call by the officals v toronto
no reason they cant compete against a Hull KR team who have conceded over 60 points to championship clubs in 3 games, take note fun time crunchie! toulouse away for HKR wont be a gimmie, sure they could win , but at home toulouse will give any team in the middle 8s a run for their money!
HKR could easily be 5th going into the last round, leeds already safe can put the cue on the wrack and play youngsters v toronto and lose, salford if they beat london, which they should do, then play toulouse with nothing to play for too! therefore HKR, with their poor points difference could end up back in the MPG!
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| Quote ="number 6"why? you previously said toulouse were cooked after london beat them! they were beaten by a call by the officals v toronto'"
1. They are cooked and won't win again. Was I wrong or did they lse?
2. They conceded a try that wasn't a try, but the missed conversion and the failure to take the 1 pointer on 3 separate occasions are more so the reason that they failed to win.....
3. I said they'd lose. Your opinion is just that...an opinion, my statement is thus far 100% accurate.
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| Quote ="number 6"why? you previously said toulouse were cooked after london beat them! they were beaten by a call by the officals v toronto
no reason they cant compete against a Hull KR team who have conceded over 60 points to championship clubs in 3 games, take note fun time crunchie! toulouse away for HKR wont be a gimmie, sure they could win , but at home toulouse will give any team in the middle 8s a run for their money!
HKR could easily be 5th going into the last round, leeds already safe can put the cue on the wrack and play youngsters v toronto and lose, salford if they beat london, which they should do, then play toulouse with nothing to play for too! therefore HKR, with their poor points difference could end up back in the MPG!'"
Your desperately trying to put us in the MPG aren’t you with your skewed facts yes we have conceded 60pts against championship sides but have beaten all of them along with going to headingley and winning there also
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| Quote ="number 6"why? you previously said toulouse were cooked after london beat them! they were beaten by a call by the officals v toronto
no reason they cant compete against a Hull KR team who have conceded over 60 points to championship clubs in 3 games, take note fun time crunchie! toulouse away for HKR wont be a gimmie, sure they could win , but at home toulouse will give any team in the middle 8s a run for their money!
HKR could easily be 5th going into the last round, leeds already safe can put the cue on the wrack and play youngsters v toronto and lose, salford if they beat london, which they should do, then play toulouse with nothing to play for too! therefore HKR, with their poor points difference could end up back in the MPG!'"
Maybe. We'll see.
Widnes getting their first win in forever is bad news for Toronto though. I'm going to go out on a limb and back Widnes against Toronto. Widnes are going all out for survival and Toronto have not yet beaten any SL team.
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| When did Widnes last beat a Super League club?
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"When did Widnes last beat a Super League club?'"
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| When was the last time Widnes had 60+ put on them?
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| Quick question, should Toronto get into Super League next season. a) Would you consider going over there to see your team play them?
b) How many supporters from your team do you think would make the trip?
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| Quote ="Budgiezilla"I reckon Widnes will win at Toronto !'"
Hurrah, another believer (see my post earlier).
Of course, my ulteria motive is because if we beat Toulouse and Widnes beat Toronto then we can't be caught and will avoid the MPG.
However, I still think Toronto are the new Leigh from 2015, all talk but fail promotion. Yes Widnes are rubbish (3 wins in the regular season) and deserve to get relegated because if it, but they ARE (barely) a SL team playing a championship team. Widnes have finally got another win this year. Toronto have been very lucky with their win at the weekend and haven't beaten an SL team yet. Will Toronto choke? Whilst far from certain, there is a distinct possibility that they will.
Also, which team is more desperate to avoid the financial strain of championship funding? Toronto have a wealthy backer, Widnes might not. In that case, Widnes are playing for their livelihoods.
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"When did Widnes last beat a Super League club?'"
When did Toronto last beat a Super League club?
This is widnes's cup final......if they play structured RL, complete sets and simply do the basics, then they're in with a shout of the MPG, no matter how remote......I hope they spank Toronto, who then need to get a result v Leeds to even get an away shot at the MPG
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| Quote ="Call Me God"When did Toronto last beat a Super League club? MPG
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Widnes have had a lot more go’s at beating a Super League club than Toronto, who were very unlucky to lose to both Hull kr and Salford.
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This is widnes's cup final......if they play structured RL, complete sets and simply do the basics, then they're in with a shout of the MPG, no matter how remote......I hope they spank Toronto, who then need to get a result v Leeds to even get an away shot at the MPG
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All of Toronto, Toulouse, London and Widnes could still make the MPG. Even Hull kr could end up in the MPG. What a fantastic competition the middle 8’s is. Personally i think it will be Toronto v Toulouse
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"Widnes have had a lot more go’s at beating a Super League club than Toronto, who were very unlucky to lose to both Hull kr and Salford. '"
...and more if not equally lucky to beat three championship sides by a average of just 9 points per game.
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Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"Personally i think it will be Toronto v Toulouse'"
Based on what? Toulouse beating either Salford and/or HKR or London not beating Salford or Halifax? The form book points to London at Toronto....and the form book is what has been adhered to for the first 5 rounds....so it'll be bye bye Widnes this weekend and away wins for the other SL sides.
No video referee announced for the Toronto game again........bet you there'll be one the following week at Headingley....and surely at the MPG the weekend after if it's as expected in Canada.
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| Quote ="Call Me God"Based on what? Toulouse beating either Salford and/or HKR or London not beating Salford or Halifax? The form book points to London at Toronto....and the form book is what has been adhered to for the first 5 rounds....so it'll be bye bye Widnes this weekend and away wins for the other SL sides.'"
To be fair to the form book you only have one example of Toulouse vs SL in France and they beat Widnes well. Granted HKR are better than Widnes and will still be favourites but they didn’t find it easy travelling to Canada.
Then it probably comes down to points difference if Toulouse come up with a win with London beating Halifax final week. Pretty close points difference so could come down to how many they both lose to Salford by and Salford probably going through the motions in Round 7 vs Toulouse.
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