Your ignorance re the Giants surpasses your ignorance re Trin...just.

Show me where I have claimed to know loads of coaches. Find one post. Just one. You wont, of course, because you resort to making things up.

The knuckle dragging comment would be over your head



If you want to pretend things are hunky dory. Go ahead. If you want to ignore me. go ahead. if you want to amuse me keep posting your feeble denials / excuses.

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You kindness and deep humanity have not gone unnoticed.

Back to your clubs predicament. Do you think SL status is sustainable if a very good first half of the season (there is a wakey +ve in there if you look for it) still results in a gate of only 5k with over 500 kids included?

So thats it then is it. Your now down to the abuse, typical if you cant give a proper answer then deflect it by hurling scorn at people. If you read it properly I just asked the question whether the club could sustain the support if Davey walked and the fans could not get in for free. Somehow you are trying your best to evade the question and make out that I am ignorant. If the question is too difficult for you then just say. And as for Hudds I know exactly what I need to know and that is didly. I do however confess to knowing a little about Wakey, when I say a little I mean a little more than you, which is all conjecture on your part.

As for the coaching bit, if I could be bothered I would put your post up and show you where you tried to show people you were in the know, and as for making things up, there is only one drama queen on here dear.

I dont do pretend either Wakefields problems are well documented as you are always quick to point out, as for ignoring you, you are like a turd on the top of the water no matter how much you flush the toileit it just wont go away. And what denials/excuses are we talking about here then. These must be in your head because they havent been posted on here. And I am glad that I am keeping you amused I know that you are easily pleased.

Of course it’s sustainable, the club will have to cut its cloth to suit. Regarding SL status, whether the clubs average attendance is 5K or 7K it’s still only worth one point on Red Halls points system. The major hurdle is, as it always was, moving from BV.

So there we have it. You make things up about what I say then make excuses when asked to back it up with proof. Typical.

Of course we are better off with KD. Where have I said otherwise?

So you want to call me a turd. Goodness me. How...witty



Back to topic. Do you think the fall in gates strengthens the club economically? Do you think a professional organisation shoud publicise suspensions? Do you think the Watene walkers should have been allowed a lap of honour?

Not so. Gates influence 2 points. They influence ability to strengthen the squad and development structures -further points - and getting finance for a 12K stadium when crowds are falling is also more difficult.

I don’t see the correlation between larger crowds & getting the finance for a new ground. It’s a catch 22 situation, new ground, hopefully larger crowds. I appreciate that people will not want to see a team being beaten every week but even some clubs who spend up to the cap are pretty gash.

Regarding the points system, I was under the impression there’s a point for 40% of capacity and another from exceeding 10K. WTRLFC will never attain the second one whilst their still at B.V, so the one point I was referring to is the 40% capacity one.

There are many supporters who would love for their team to be playing out of a decent ground, both in & out of SL, but, some are not as lucky as others. Posters come on here bleating about certain grounds & how marvellous their own clubs is as though they personally facilitated it, when in fact they just picked the right horse by supporting that club

Private £ wants returns. A club with declining gates - even when on a successful run - is unattractive. Justifying public money for a 12K stadium with declining gates is difficult. There are points for facilities. To get up to scratch requires money - the excuse of waiting for a new stadium is wearing thin. Gate £ and sponsorship linked to gate is important here.

Whereas money does not guarentee success the long term lack of it does underpin poor performance. And SL expect money to be spent on development.

The published accounts only go to November 2007 so I would love to have a copy of the Audited Accounts you are reading as these have not yet been submitted to Companies House.

Who are these players'/coaches in the game who know so much, perhaps you would like to enlighten us nah didnt think so.

Who wouldnt be better off with a KD. My question to you for the third time is would/could Hudds sustain their income through the turnstiles' if KD walked and the fans had to start paying. Please note no fudging answer the question.

I did not call you a turd exactly I likened you to one.

Do I think that the fall in gates strengthens the club economically, er not sure I will have to think about that one



I think that whatever Wakefield want to do regarding making public the suspension of their players' is one for them to decide upon, and my thoughts on the matter dont come up for discussion with you.

And finally we come to where you show your true colours. Is there nothing you wont do, as to stoop that low by using the Adam Watene walk to score points off Wakefield. I find that you are beneath contempt. I and a lot more good people walked on Sunday for a good man, and nobody wanted any recognition for it. If you want to run Wakefield down have the good grace and decency if you know the meaning of the word to leave him out of your petty vendetta against the club.

Id re-word the question

I dont know one fan that doesnt pay unless you know something different?

It was a shambles not allowing / enabling a lap of honour. Your own fans say so. They were indignant. On a 4 page thread onthe subject you seemed to manage one brown nosing post re the club. Funnily enough there was none of the bile of your final para here. How hypocritical to have a go at me over the walk when utterly failing to do so with your own supporters.



Of course the club would be materially worse off without KD. However he is the owner. Would we play in a dump if still at fartown? yes, but we are now in the Galpharm. these are the realities.

Your ground is very poor, you appear to be tenants, the prospect of a new ground is slim, your director of football says when you get that new ground your financial worries will melt away, your gates are down, there were player suspensions and indications are players are available.

Our ground is poor and we appear to be tennants' nothing new there then.
Once again you speak like an authoritarian on the subject of Wakefield, you know for sure that we are not getting a new ground. No did not think so, who hasnt got financial worries and I doubt anybody elses' financial worries will melt away as you put it our gates are down player suspensions
players available. It would appear then we are in a bad way. We are doomed then last one out turn off the light.

On the subject of the walk so as not to imflame what seemed like a delicate situation at the time what I posted I did in the interest of harmony in the club and fwiw I only said maybe they had other issues to address. It does not suprise me one bit that the cesspit mind of yours would try and use it to your advantage by saying that I was brown nosing. After all you need to deflect from the embarrassment you caused all the decent people from Huddersfied. As far as the Wakey fans are concerned the difference with them complaining and you is that you have a different agenda than those fans. They in the main were complaining that an opportunity had been wasted to boost the fund somewhat and the chance to get some much needed pr. Where as on the other hand all you wanted to do was to spread your poison even further, another despicable thing your more than capable of.

If you do not think the prospects of a new ground are slim then bully for you. Those of us on planet earth realise that you are at a very early stage, there is no apparent £ and a recession. The SL timescales are tight. Dream on little fella



Have i caused embarrassment to the people of Huddersfield? Goodness me this thread has a huge impact. Were you appointed a spokesman for them? Did you do some polling? Or have you made up some spurious 'assumption'. Hmmmm lets think



If the giants did not let kids (and adults) do a lap of honour I would criticise them rather than 'look for harmony' , not brown nose like you.

keep amusing me with your bile driven posts.

Back to topic. You appear critical of 'free entry' at the giants. This is only for U12s. I think it is to the credit of the club. I see there were 500+ kids at the game on sunday. I assume if these got in free you would criticise it or woud we get a helping of hypocracy again?

You seem to have a policy where you appear to force these assumptions at me and make it appear that I am against everything you have said old lass. Fwiw you are pushing against an open door for most parts I and a lot of Wakey fans agree with what you are saying in the main, its just that you try and make it appear that you know everything and all you know is what Wadski tells you not withstanding labouring the point as well. When you know something that we do not then come back and tell us.

As for your embarrassment I doubt if you could even spell it. Oh and I dont have to go canvassing its done by pm. And judging by those I have recieved my dear you are not as popular as you would like to think. Cannot understand why though really.

OK - just so certain pathetic posters can move on with their life, I will say it:
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Thanks for taking the time away from brown nosing to spew some more invective.

You think I give a t*ss about being popular on a forum. Grow up.



You have got some pm's so you think you can speak for Huddersfield. That sums you up

I suppose it is better than making up what I say and then avoiding the issue when asked for proof.

Now, away from the population of Hudds pm'ing you



Do you think letting in kids free like the Giants do is a good thing?

Very good Clan. Better than you usually manage. I know the misquoting technique is very popular with the hard of thinking.

Back to topic. As John Kear says that a new stadium would cause financial problems to melt away (the ones he said did not exist!) How long do you think it will take to get all permissions /designs, plans and funding for your new stadium? How much will be done by the time of the next liscence application?

Why do you even care



Response... Erm, because I've got nothing better in my life to think about.

Yet another poster who wants to write about me.

500 kids?
Are you referring to the kids from junior clubs?

If so,my little one played.There were 8 junior teams ,with an average of 10 players per team = 80 kids,if you want to take an average that each kid had a sibling,then add another 80,approx 160 kids.
Not even sure they counted,as when we entered the ground,the kids and parents were guided around the turnstiles and not through them.


Although i will agree and have said it before,our crowds are appalling and a major concern.Not convinced that the public of Wakefield are bothered whether they have a team playing in the premier league of a sport carrying the cities name or not.

Its a pleasure but dont flatter yourself.

Er I know you dont give a t*ss about being popular on a forum or anywhere else for that matter dear lady. You have proved that before Sugar and I have no doubt you wont let us down in the near future, you just cant help yourself.

I would not want to speak for the people of Hudds. I am sure they have got more important things to do than talk about somebody who sole ambition in life is to try and upset people because she does not have a life of her own. Worrying though nevertheless. And yes the misquoting technique is very popular with some people, you in particular you seem to have it off to a fine art. I suppose that goes with having no friends and a lot of time on your hands.

It shows very good initiative on the part of the Hudds club to let kids in for free. Highly commendable they are the future of the club. It would be nice if our club were in a position to do the same unfortunately as you have told us at every opportunity we are not in such a position to do so. Once again if you hear anything about our club dont hesitate to imform us.

I am referring to the most recent accounts that are available,up to 11/07.
Apologies if that wasnt clear.
However those are the accounts that show the current net worth,they are the accounts that show you lost money in the season you appeared in the CC Final.
When the accounts are superseded by new ones,i will be happy to check if they have improved and turned in a profit and reduced the negative net worth of 4m.