No. We've signed two Grand Final winners and two already established Super League players with the potenntial to improve further. Given that and the return of Burgess and Morrison from long-term injury I would be surprised if the Bulls' season was significantly worse than 2008, which is what many seem to be predicting.

Thing is most teams have good packs now. Its not the late 90's/early 00's anymore where Bradford can power through teams. You need a good set of backs to finish things off. Maybe you wont finnish 9th but I cant see any higher 6th.

How did they come 5th this year then? Without Burgess, Morrison for the most part?

Do improvements of other teams not count?

BTW im not being bias because im a Leeds fan. I have just predicted it as I have seen it. Same as I do every year. In fact last year I stupidly put Bradford to finish top. Then I realised how average your signings were. This year is no better IMO.

given that last season was massively disrupted by a neverending run of injuries to key players, if we can keep players fit this time round a lot of people predicting bradford finishing outside top 4 or 5 are going to have egg on there faces come october

im willing to bet you my new shiny helicoptor that atleast 2 of these are wrong

morrisson is a year older.sheriffe and worrincey are average SL players at best.who knows how the 35 year old menzies will go. scruton is a great signing but you still have the same average,at best, players from last year

and unlike leeds star signing, who is only two years younger, is fit for the start of the season.

5 years younger



difference is he has quality all around him. menzies will be expected to be the main man,the star player.

Thats quite a good Bet.........Helicopter V's VW Golf.....for two of the things I mention

On a serious note I am looking to attend the CC 1st home game, and will be looking to book a corporate event (Funds for hospitality Etc a consideration), which I guess i will need to arrange fairly shortly

morrison born 1976
buderus born 1978

by my maths thats two years - schools must be really poor in leeds



ps seniors a year older too and he's hardly a spring chicken anymore

wire

who else

Menzies is 35
Buderus is 30

35-30=5

You can't have forgotten that much over the school holidays have you?

1-Saints
2-Wigan
3-Leeds
4-Hull FC
5-Bradford
6-Warrington
7-Catalans
8-Huddersfield
9-Hull KR
10-Cas
11-Wakefield
12-Quins
13-Celtic
14-Salford

didn't go to school in leeds thank god





and your info is wrong

Morrison and Menzies are two different players.

Bl88dy hell.
They're nearly old enough to play for Saints.

Look at the original post he quoted

Did i miss us losing our franchise and quins getting another one?

Whoops!!! I actually swapped u with Quins to tenth but forgot to change the name!! Think u will do ok this year

Anyone with such wise predictions can be forgiven!

except we were talking about morrison not menzies

original post was comparing morrison being fit for start off season against a crocked buderus. tad rhino dragged menzies into it later.

You were... Tad was talking about the new signings.

I would say the top six should include these 6, probably in this order:

Leeds
Wigan
St Helens
Catalans
Bradford
Warrington

The rest looks like it could be a lottery. Everything depends on which coach can get the best out of their players.

For all those writing off Celtic and Salford it could be a mistake. As Celtic play some very good attacking rugby, BUT the forwards are definitely not the best and if they haven't strengthened in that department they will be dominated week in week out. Also if Luke Dyer is lost to injury they could find themselves struggling and having seen how badly he faded in the NL1 GF his fitness is questionable.

As for Salford the team Shaun McRae has assembled is, on paper, stronger than that which reached the play offs under Karl Harrison. Lets face it McRae is streets ahead of Harrison as a coach. The main worry for Salford is they way Wakefield tore them apart in the Cup last season. However, Salford improved vastly as the season progressed and the club has brought in some good players and if the younger players continue to develop and live up to their potential then this could be impressive first season back.

It's all ifs and buts, but like I've already said who finishes where will depend on which coach can get the best out of their players and who has the team best conditioned and prepared.

Leeds
Wigan
Saints
Wire
Hull
Bradford
Hudds
Hull KR
Catalans
Wakefield
Quins
Castleford
Salford
Celtic