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| Racism? I thought this was a SBW thread.... Not one about argyle!
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| Quote ="AXE2GRIND"Racism? I thought this was a SBW thread.... Not one about argyle!'"
Brilliant!! Get out of that Cappy.
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| I saw Martin Offiah, Vaiga Tuigamala, Kurt Sorensen, Jonathan Davies, Dean Bell, Mal Meninga and our own Ellery Hanley play in England plus cameos from Wally Lewis and Andrew Johns.
I didn't see SBW when NZ won the World cup and not since as he's been in Union, so is this man on his last pay day or the saviour of Superleague?
This is to me no more than an expensive stunt to cover the lack of substance, and all TWP ever seem capable of, I will go the the double header at Headingley but it will be to watch Hull, Cas and Leeds on the big opening day. Please don't anyone count me and thousands of others as being there to see the saviours of Rugby League and the greatest ever player on earth.
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| I might go to the double header at Headingley too, but only because I'll be on holiday when Toronto come to Warrington a couple of weeks later, so if I go to Leeds it will purely be to watch them and SBW.
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"I never said that you made an Islamophobic comment, I accused Kennedy of that. I simply said that the Leigh tag team, which includes you, have brought themselves into disrepute by making fantastic and implausible attempts to explain away the Kennedy comment.
But back on topic, Sonny Bill Williams is having a great impact on the awareness of rugby league around the world. We need to build on this, especially in the days leading up to SBW's debut against Castleford.'"
Quite and I’m sure you won’t let the opportunity pass by in proclaiming how much better it would be for the game if only they were playing Casablanca!
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| Quote ="Dropkick Murphy"I might go to the double header at Headingley too, but only because I'll be on holiday when Toronto come to Warrington a couple of weeks later, so if I go to Leeds it will purely be to watch them and SBW.'"
Well in 1994 or thereabouts the world beating all black John Gallagher came to Tattersfield with London Crusaders/Broncos for a second division play off game and a performance memorable only for it's total mediocrity, but let's hope SBW thrill you and me both at Headingley, if you go to the game(s) have a great time mate.....
Oh BTW did you go see Andrew Johns when he played at wire? I reckon he put two thousand on the gates, which SBW may well do at Headingley, but he'll need to really perform big style if he's going to keep doing that..........
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"I never said that you made an Islamophobic comment, I accused Kennedy of that. I simply said that the Leigh tag team, which includes you, have brought themselves into disrepute by making fantastic and implausible attempts to explain away the Kennedy comment.
But back on topic, Sonny Bill Williams is having a great impact on the awareness of rugby league around the world. We need to build on this, especially in the days leading up to SBW's debut against Castleford.'"
Well, where have I posted anything to do with this.
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https://www.nrl.com/news/2020/01/01/ill ... rival-nrl/
Article on the Wolfpack.
Says they have spent 21 miillion canadian dollars.
Also says they think they can sign "top shelf" players from the NRL and Union.
Also says 1 baseball player in Toronto earns more than the salary cap of the ESL.
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https://www.nrl.com/news/2020/01/01/ill ... rival-nrl/
Article on the Wolfpack.
Says they have spent 21 miillion canadian dollars.
Also says they think they can sign "top shelf" players from the NRL and Union.
Also says 1 baseball player in Toronto earns more than the salary cap of the ESL.
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| Quote ="roopy"https://www.nrl.com/news/2020/01/01/ill-have-him-him-and-him-wolfpacks-plan-for-super-league-to-rival-nrl/
Article on the Wolfpack.
Says they have spent 21 miillion canadian dollars.
Also says they think they can sign "top shelf" players from the NRL and Union.
Also says 1 basebawll player in Toronto earns more than the salary cap of the ESL.'"
Brian noble using someone elses. Money to buy success..... Never.....
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| Quote ="roopy"https://www.nrl.com/news/2020/01/01/ill-have-him-him-and-him-wolfpacks-plan-for-super-league-to-rival-nrl/
Article on the Wolfpack.
Says they have spent 21 miillion canadian dollars.
Also says they think they can sign "top shelf" players from the NRL and Union.
Also says 1 baseball player in Toronto earns more than the salary cap of the ESL.'"
“The product is world class, it is quality, and people have already got behind it. Who would have thought three years ago that you would now have ticket touts selling our $20 tickets for $200 outside the stadium to people who want to get in.”
I find that quote hard to believe I'd expect it from Jeannie but not nobby
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| Quote ="snowie"“The product is world class, it is quality, and people have already got behind it. Who would have thought three years ago that you would now have ticket touts selling our $20 tickets for $200 outside the stadium to people who want to get in.”
I find that quote hard to believe I'd expect it from Jeannie but not nobby'"
Noble's been talking nonsense since he went to TWP, it's in the contract to talk rubbish, they think it works. But if you have been around as long as me it is the modus operandi to talk your club up to the stars on the eve of the season, I can recall many a not very good club scraping promotion to the top division and basically saying we are in it to win it and not just survive. TWP's relatively poor recruitment for this season screams otherwise but fans don't pay as much attention to this detail than they do soundbites and headlines.
It's season ticket sales talk, once the punters have paid up front for the whole year, it doesn't matter how dismal your performances are...........The real news here is the massive losses they have racked up, which they are trying to excuse as "investment". I bet "Ottawa" & "New York" are looking at those figures and thinking eeeekkkkk!! Do they really want to spend that then get blocked when the new TV deal comes 2022. Behind the headlines the fine details tell us there will be no NY or Ottawa, not unless they have "Billionaires" with £Millions to flush down the pan.
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| Quote ="snowie"“The product is world class, it is quality, and people have already got behind it. Who would have thought three years ago that you would now have ticket touts selling our $20 tickets for $200 outside the stadium to people who want to get in.”
I find that quote hard to believe I'd expect it from Jeannie but not nobby'"
It's an outright lie that will be lapped up by RL zealots alone. I understand the reasons they are lying and have no problem with that... But when they get fewer visiting fans than they project and have to drive around the middle of toronro handing out freebies to all the bars, then they will have a problem. One solution is to not have TV coverage showing the half empty stadium..... A solution they have in place.......but they cant fix the scoreboard and their squad is decidedly average and their coach has coached average sides before with no success at either london or latterly at leeds..... Toronto need to win more than they lose at home in 2020......
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| Quote ="snowie"“The product is world class, it is quality, and people have already got behind it. Who would have thought three years ago that you would now have ticket touts selling our $20 tickets for $200 outside the stadium to people who want to get in.”
I find that quote hard to believe I'd expect it from Jeannie but not nobby'"
At this time of year, there's a lot of baubles spoken.
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| As I said months ago, I don't know what part of TWP smashing all their targets over the last 3 years makes you think they are no chance of reaching their future targets.
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| Quote ="roopy"As I said months ago, I don't know what part of TWP smashing all their targets over the last 3 years makes you think they are no chance of reaching their future targets.'"
1. They've not smashed all their targets...they've hit one which in reality they should have set as 2 years given they could buy anything they wanted.
2. They spent more money in 2017 in C1 Than the other 11 sides in that comp. They then spent more than the entire championship the following year before bottling it and then again, outspent the entire comp in 2019 and were promoted.
3. They are still reliant on free tickets and a beer festival to even half fill their ground...they target an extra 1,000 ST sales on the back of SBW.....that's about £165,000....or 2 games wages for SBW....
4. They have no NA TV deal in place or on the horizon...a target that they set themselves.
5. They have no NA Players in "situ" or on the horizon...again, a target that they set themselves
Toronto have bought SBW, a once powerhouse of the game who is nearing the end of his abilities and surrounded him with average players and a coach who has no record of anything other than winning with a team of stars. They have yet to declare their sponsor for 2020 or unveiled their shirt either......the shine is starting to fade from the polished turd
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| Quote ="AXE2GRIND"1. They've not smashed all their targets...they've hit one which in reality they should have set as 2 years given they could buy anything they wanted.
2. They spent more money in 2017 in C1 Than the other 11 sides in that comp. They then spent more than the entire championship the following year before bottling it and then again, outspent the entire comp in 2019 and were promoted.
3. They are still reliant on free tickets and a beer festival to even half fill their ground...they target an extra 1,000 ST sales on the back of SBW.....that's about £165,000....or 2 games wages for SBW....
4. They have no NA TV deal in place or on the horizon...a target that they set themselves.
5. They have no NA Players in "situ" or on the horizon...again, a target that they set themselves
Toronto have bought SBW, a once powerhouse of the game who is nearing the end of his abilities and surrounded him with average players and a coach who has no record of anything other than winning with a team of stars. They have yet to declare their sponsor for 2020 or unveiled their shirt either......the shine is starting to fade from the polished turd'"
The Toronto centre Richard Leutele, formerly a star of the Cronulla Sharks, is hardly an average player. He is class. If Toronto play Sonny Bill Williams on Richard Leutele’s side of the field, the effects on opposing Super League sides could be devastating.
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| INOUT Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"The Toronto centre Richard Leutele, formerly a star of the Cronulla Sharks, is hardly an average player. He is class. If Toronto play Sonny Bill Williams on Richard Leutele’s side of the field, the effects on opposing Super League sides could be devastating.'"
Cronulla never had any stars, as well you know...
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"The Toronto centre Richard Leutele, formerly a star of the Cronulla Sharks, is hardly an average player. He is class.[u If Toronto play Sonny Bill Williams on Richard Leutele’s side of the field, the effects on opposing Super League sides could be devastating.[/u'"
Pure speculation on your part Walt, as per usual
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| It just shows how much the Toronto public love the wolfpack that tickets are changing hands for 200$
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| Quote ="Steph Curry"It just shows how much the Toronto public love the wolfpack that tickets are changing hands for 200$'" fake news no one would buy them for 200 dollars when they hand them out for nothing like candy
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| Quote ="snowie"fake news no one would buy them for 200 dollars when they hand them out for nothing like candy'"
It’s ok to be jealous. Don’t beat yourself up about it
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| Any evidence of this $200 trade?
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| Quote ="Steph Curry"It just shows how much the Toronto public love the wolfpack that tickets are changing hands for 200$'"
And yet argyle will continue to deprive these poor souls access to their heroes by continuing to rent the inadequate council stadium instead of taking a game to a bigger more modern stadium befitting this star studded side. Still... At least those unlucky fans who have missed out on a season ticket can watch all the games live on NATV, who have tripped over themselves to pay megbucks to get coverage. This is why the biggest sponsorship deal in RL has been announced after the initial 3 year deal of flights for shirts came to an end after the championship play off final.
I expect the toronto streets to be like a ghost town when the double header is broadcast at the start of February. The bars and cafes will be rammed with fans having an early sunday breakfast and cheering on their heroes at 7.30am locql time..... It'll be incredible...... Watercoolers will be awash with comments and criques the following day when the millions of wolfpack fans return to work, delighted to be able to forget their years of misery following better known and supported sports like. Ice hokey, soccer, lacrosse and curling
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| Quote ="Steph Curry"It’s ok to be jealous. Don’t beat yourself up about it'"
I don't, I wouldn't expect you to be so gullible buttercup you believe what you want
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| Quote ="snowie"I don't, I wouldn't expect you to be so gullible buttercup you believe what you want
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Nonsense. It is only a matter of time until toronto win sl with victory parades in the cbd once the 30,000 travelling fans all fly back from manchester. The Blue Jays and Maple Leafs wont be able to compete.... Toronto is now a Rugby League city.
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